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Democrats: Trump firing Comey could raise 'grave constitutional issues' - video
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arthur wouk
2017-05-10 05:02:07 UTC
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Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
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rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-10 12:30:47 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?

I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
islander
2017-05-10 14:43:21 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
What you are suggesting would amount to a conspiracy of gigantic
proportions, especially since there is evidence that the same tactics
were used in several other national elections as well. We have entered
a new era of weaponized cyber attacks. At least this will increase
awareness of computer security, a field that has been ignored by the
industry for far too long.
rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-10 15:34:37 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
What you are suggesting would amount to a conspiracy of gigantic
proportions, especially since there is evidence that the same tactics
were used in several other national elections as well. We have entered
a new era of weaponized cyber attacks. At least this will increase
awareness of computer security, a field that has been ignored by the
industry for far too long.
Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but the government
so completely lacks credibility with me anymore that I
wouldn't believe anything they just said without actually
producing any evidence anyway, nowadays.
islander
2017-05-11 16:31:30 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
What you are suggesting would amount to a conspiracy of gigantic
proportions, especially since there is evidence that the same tactics
were used in several other national elections as well. We have entered
a new era of weaponized cyber attacks. At least this will increase
awareness of computer security, a field that has been ignored by the
industry for far too long.
Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but the government
so completely lacks credibility with me anymore that I
wouldn't believe anything they just said without actually
producing any evidence anyway, nowadays.
I realize that you do not trust the government, but at some point the
impossibility of such a massive conspiracy must raise questions in your
mind. For me, the preponderance of information, both from the
government and the media indicates that the Trump organization is up to
their collective necks in activities that are at least sleazy, but which
are probably illegal. It remains to be seen if the FBI investigation
will continue since Trump fired Comey. Reports that I have seen claim
that it will, but with Trump appointees at the senior levels in the DoJ
and the FBI it is going to become difficult to get the resources needed
to continue the investigation.
rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-11 17:15:22 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
What you are suggesting would amount to a conspiracy of gigantic
proportions, especially since there is evidence that the same tactics
were used in several other national elections as well. We have entered
a new era of weaponized cyber attacks. At least this will increase
awareness of computer security, a field that has been ignored by the
industry for far too long.
Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but the government
so completely lacks credibility with me anymore that I
wouldn't believe anything they just said without actually
producing any evidence anyway, nowadays.
I realize that you do not trust the government, but at some point the
impossibility of such a massive conspiracy must raise questions in your
mind. For me, the preponderance of information, both from the
government and the media indicates that the Trump organization is up to
their collective necks in activities that are at least sleazy, but which
are probably illegal. It remains to be seen if the FBI investigation
will continue since Trump fired Comey. Reports that I have seen claim
that it will, but with Trump appointees at the senior levels in the DoJ
and the FBI it is going to become difficult to get the resources needed
to continue the investigation.
The bigger something gets without ever
any solid backbone to it, the less, not the
more, persuasive it becomes.
islander
2017-05-11 21:59:26 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
What you are suggesting would amount to a conspiracy of gigantic
proportions, especially since there is evidence that the same tactics
were used in several other national elections as well. We have entered
a new era of weaponized cyber attacks. At least this will increase
awareness of computer security, a field that has been ignored by the
industry for far too long.
Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but the government
so completely lacks credibility with me anymore that I
wouldn't believe anything they just said without actually
producing any evidence anyway, nowadays.
I realize that you do not trust the government, but at some point the
impossibility of such a massive conspiracy must raise questions in your
mind. For me, the preponderance of information, both from the
government and the media indicates that the Trump organization is up to
their collective necks in activities that are at least sleazy, but which
are probably illegal. It remains to be seen if the FBI investigation
will continue since Trump fired Comey. Reports that I have seen claim
that it will, but with Trump appointees at the senior levels in the DoJ
and the FBI it is going to become difficult to get the resources needed
to continue the investigation.
The bigger something gets without ever
any solid backbone to it, the less, not the
more, persuasive it becomes.
Is that Rumple's rule? More probable, the more smoke, the more likely
that there is fire.

Back when I worked for the federal government, I was a bit of a rebel.
At one point my boss called me into his office and advised me to cool my
rhetoric. He said, "Never underestimate the persistence of those in the
system if they want to get you!" I hadn't done anything illegal, but I
thought it was good advice anyway.

In the case of Trump, I'm pretty confident that the truth will
eventually come out.
rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-11 23:52:25 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
What you are suggesting would amount to a conspiracy of gigantic
proportions, especially since there is evidence that the same tactics
were used in several other national elections as well. We have entered
a new era of weaponized cyber attacks. At least this will increase
awareness of computer security, a field that has been ignored by the
industry for far too long.
Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but the government
so completely lacks credibility with me anymore that I
wouldn't believe anything they just said without actually
producing any evidence anyway, nowadays.
I realize that you do not trust the government, but at some point the
impossibility of such a massive conspiracy must raise questions in your
mind. For me, the preponderance of information, both from the
government and the media indicates that the Trump organization is up to
their collective necks in activities that are at least sleazy, but which
are probably illegal. It remains to be seen if the FBI investigation
will continue since Trump fired Comey. Reports that I have seen claim
that it will, but with Trump appointees at the senior levels in the DoJ
and the FBI it is going to become difficult to get the resources needed
to continue the investigation.
The bigger something gets without ever
any solid backbone to it, the less, not the
more, persuasive it becomes.
Is that Rumple's rule?
That's should be everybody's rule, except suckers.
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More probable, the more smoke, the more likely
that there is fire.
Sometimes people just blow smoke. One way
to guess that's being done is when there's lots of
smoke but no fire.
Post by islander
Back when I worked for the federal government, I was a bit of a rebel.
At one point my boss called me into his office and advised me to cool my
rhetoric. He said, "Never underestimate the persistence of those in the
system if they want to get you!" I hadn't done anything illegal, but I
thought it was good advice anyway.
In the case of Trump, I'm pretty confident that the truth will
eventually come out.
You're very optimistic, but who knows? It might. I'm
not holding my breath though. We already know about
Trump screwing people over who did work for him.
What he says today has no necessary relationship to
what he said yesterday or what he'll say tomorrow.
islander
2017-05-12 15:40:09 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
What you are suggesting would amount to a conspiracy of gigantic
proportions, especially since there is evidence that the same tactics
were used in several other national elections as well. We have entered
a new era of weaponized cyber attacks. At least this will increase
awareness of computer security, a field that has been ignored by the
industry for far too long.
Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but the government
so completely lacks credibility with me anymore that I
wouldn't believe anything they just said without actually
producing any evidence anyway, nowadays.
I realize that you do not trust the government, but at some point the
impossibility of such a massive conspiracy must raise questions in your
mind. For me, the preponderance of information, both from the
government and the media indicates that the Trump organization is up to
their collective necks in activities that are at least sleazy, but which
are probably illegal. It remains to be seen if the FBI investigation
will continue since Trump fired Comey. Reports that I have seen claim
that it will, but with Trump appointees at the senior levels in the DoJ
and the FBI it is going to become difficult to get the resources needed
to continue the investigation.
The bigger something gets without ever
any solid backbone to it, the less, not the
more, persuasive it becomes.
Is that Rumple's rule?
That's should be everybody's rule, except suckers.
Post by islander
More probable, the more smoke, the more likely
that there is fire.
Sometimes people just blow smoke. One way
to guess that's being done is when there's lots of
smoke but no fire.
Post by islander
Back when I worked for the federal government, I was a bit of a rebel.
At one point my boss called me into his office and advised me to cool my
rhetoric. He said, "Never underestimate the persistence of those in the
system if they want to get you!" I hadn't done anything illegal, but I
thought it was good advice anyway.
In the case of Trump, I'm pretty confident that the truth will
eventually come out.
You're very optimistic, but who knows? It might. I'm
not holding my breath though. We already know about
Trump screwing people over who did work for him.
What he says today has no necessary relationship to
what he said yesterday or what he'll say tomorrow.
It is pretty clear now that Trump fired Comey because he was getting too
close to the investigation of the Trump organization's dealings with the
Russians. Even Trump seems to now be admitting that (in his interview
with Lester Holt) and his minions are bending over backward to try to
keep up with his changing stories. What a mess!

I'm looking forward to watching Reliable Sources on CNN this Sunday.
They do a pretty good job of critically examining what has been reported
over the past week.
rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-12 17:54:50 UTC
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On Fri, 12 May 2017 08:40:09 -0700, islander <***@priracy.com> wrote:
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It is pretty clear now that Trump fired Comey because he was getting too
close to the investigation of the Trump organization's dealings with the
Russians. Even Trump seems to now be admitting that (in his interview
with Lester Holt) and his minions are bending over backward to try to
keep up with his changing stories. What a mess!
I'm looking forward to watching Reliable Sources on CNN this Sunday.
They do a pretty good job of critically examining what has been reported
over the past week.
I don't get CNN, of course, being an antenna-TV troglodyte.
Trump seems to be in a constant state of unraveling, though
so far he's managed not to end up unraveled. Can he keep
it up? Maybe he can, maybe he can't.

I watch too much TV anyway. There was a Family Feud
final round yesterday in which one question was about how
much TV most people watch a day. The two contestants
answered 3 and 4, but I had answered 5. 5 did turn out
to be the most popular survey answer. I guess most
people watch too much TV. I am counting, though, the
times the TV is on but I'm not watching it, it's just
background noise.
islander
2017-05-12 19:29:38 UTC
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It is pretty clear now that Trump fired Comey because he was getting too
close to the investigation of the Trump organization's dealings with the
Russians. Even Trump seems to now be admitting that (in his interview
with Lester Holt) and his minions are bending over backward to try to
keep up with his changing stories. What a mess!
I'm looking forward to watching Reliable Sources on CNN this Sunday.
They do a pretty good job of critically examining what has been reported
over the past week.
I don't get CNN, of course, being an antenna-TV troglodyte.
Trump seems to be in a constant state of unraveling, though
so far he's managed not to end up unraveled. Can he keep
it up? Maybe he can, maybe he can't.
I watch too much TV anyway. There was a Family Feud
final round yesterday in which one question was about how
much TV most people watch a day. The two contestants
answered 3 and 4, but I had answered 5. 5 did turn out
to be the most popular survey answer. I guess most
people watch too much TV. I am counting, though, the
times the TV is on but I'm not watching it, it's just
background noise.
I get a one hour update on what is happening each morning and then get
one hour in the evening. I record the PBS Newshour to watch at my
convenience. After that, my wife and I watch entertainment shows for
two-three hours each evening. Our TV is on most of the time, however
and if anything interesting is happening, I will stop whatever I am
doing to watch.

On weekends, I like to watch Joy Reid's show which gives me a glimpse
into the black community and I record Meet the Press, Reliable Sources,
and Fareed Zakaria to watch at my convenience.
rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-13 07:01:34 UTC
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On Fri, 12 May 2017 12:29:38 -0700, islander <***@priracy.com> wrote:
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I get a one hour update on what is happening each morning and then get
one hour in the evening. I record the PBS Newshour to watch at my
convenience. After that, my wife and I watch entertainment shows for
two-three hours each evening. Our TV is on most of the time, however
and if anything interesting is happening, I will stop whatever I am
doing to watch.
On weekends, I like to watch Joy Reid's show which gives me a glimpse
into the black community and I record Meet the Press, Reliable Sources,
and Fareed Zakaria to watch at my convenience.
I don't think I get Fareed on antenna TV: I haven't caught him
for a long time. I like PBS Newshour and John Dickerson, but
almost never catch them. Other than that I only watch local
news. For national and international news, I generally watch
RT if I catch it, and don't watch any American national or
international shows other than PBS and Dickerson, because
I'm so skeptical of the other USA national and international
shows that I don't believe anything they say. I used to think
Charlie Rose was a bit too flat to be interesting. but I'm
liking him more now. That may be because he's changed,
but more likely because I've changed. I like Meet the
Press but haven't caught it in quite a while. I run into
Bonnie Erbé's "To the Contrary" often, and I always like
that.
rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-13 12:35:15 UTC
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I get a one hour update on what is happening each morning and then get
one hour in the evening. I record the PBS Newshour to watch at my
convenience. After that, my wife and I watch entertainment shows for
two-three hours each evening. Our TV is on most of the time, however
and if anything interesting is happening, I will stop whatever I am
doing to watch.
On weekends, I like to watch Joy Reid's show which gives me a glimpse
into the black community and I record Meet the Press, Reliable Sources,
and Fareed Zakaria to watch at my convenience.
I don't think I get Fareed on antenna TV: I haven't caught him
for a long time. I like PBS Newshour and John Dickerson, but
almost never catch them. Other than that I only watch local
news. For national and international news, I generally watch
RT if I catch it, and don't watch any American national or
international shows other than PBS and Dickerson, because
I'm so skeptical of the other USA national and international
shows that I don't believe anything they say. I used to think
Charlie Rose was a bit too flat to be interesting. but I'm
liking him more now. That may be because he's changed,
but more likely because I've changed. I like Meet the
Press but haven't caught it in quite a while. I run into
Bonnie Erbé's "To the Contrary" often, and I always like
that.
P.S. I was watching Washington Week just now, which I
also like but hadn't included above because I hadn't seen
it for a long time. It came on 4:30-4:00 AM, and will
be airing Sunday 3:30-4:00 AM and Sunday 11:30-noon,
which are all times I'm usually not watching TV. It
shows up at other times on a channel I don't get on my
antenna TV.

Some might lecture me that I should get cable so I can
watch it whenever I want, I guess, but I don't feel like
letting take over my life to that extent, even though I do
watch a lot of TV. I'm not interested in any arguments
that getting even more TV will actually reduce the degree
to which TV takes over my life rather than increasing it.
That argument is a non-starter for me. I'm also not
interested in any possible arguments that it shouldn't be
a non-starter for me, from people so consumed with
TV that they their lives revolve around it.
islander
2017-05-13 19:24:40 UTC
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I get a one hour update on what is happening each morning and then get
one hour in the evening. I record the PBS Newshour to watch at my
convenience. After that, my wife and I watch entertainment shows for
two-three hours each evening. Our TV is on most of the time, however
and if anything interesting is happening, I will stop whatever I am
doing to watch.
On weekends, I like to watch Joy Reid's show which gives me a glimpse
into the black community and I record Meet the Press, Reliable Sources,
and Fareed Zakaria to watch at my convenience.
I don't think I get Fareed on antenna TV: I haven't caught him
for a long time. I like PBS Newshour and John Dickerson, but
almost never catch them. Other than that I only watch local
news. For national and international news, I generally watch
RT if I catch it, and don't watch any American national or
international shows other than PBS and Dickerson, because
I'm so skeptical of the other USA national and international
shows that I don't believe anything they say. I used to think
Charlie Rose was a bit too flat to be interesting. but I'm
liking him more now. That may be because he's changed,
but more likely because I've changed. I like Meet the
Press but haven't caught it in quite a while. I run into
Bonnie Erbé's "To the Contrary" often, and I always like
that.
P.S. I was watching Washington Week just now, which I
also like but hadn't included above because I hadn't seen
it for a long time. It came on 4:30-4:00 AM, and will
be airing Sunday 3:30-4:00 AM and Sunday 11:30-noon,
which are all times I'm usually not watching TV. It
shows up at other times on a channel I don't get on my
antenna TV.
Some might lecture me that I should get cable so I can
watch it whenever I want, I guess, but I don't feel like
letting take over my life to that extent, even though I do
watch a lot of TV. I'm not interested in any arguments
that getting even more TV will actually reduce the degree
to which TV takes over my life rather than increasing it.
That argument is a non-starter for me. I'm also not
interested in any possible arguments that it shouldn't be
a non-starter for me, from people so consumed with
TV that they their lives revolve around it.
If you like to watch whatever is on including the commercials, that is
your prerogative. Personally, I like the convenience of easily setting
up the dvr to record my favorite shows and then decide later if/when I
want to watch them. The benefit of being able to skip through
commercials is an added benefit. A lot of what I record, I just delete
without watching when it gets too old or I lose interest.

Washington Week comes on Friday after the PBS Newshour here. Meet the
Press is on NBC and you should be able to get that if you want to.
rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-14 00:14:08 UTC
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If you like to watch whatever is on including the commercials, that is
your prerogative. Personally, I like the convenience of easily setting
up the dvr to record my favorite shows and then decide later if/when I
want to watch them. The benefit of being able to skip through
commercials is an added benefit. A lot of what I record, I just delete
without watching when it gets too old or I lose interest.
Most people feel as you do. I'm the Luddite.
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Washington Week comes on Friday after the PBS Newshour here. Meet the
Press is on NBC and you should be able to get that if you want to.
billbowden
2017-05-11 03:25:40 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-11 04:00:51 UTC
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On Wed, 10 May 2017 20:25:40 -0700, "billbowden"
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Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
That's "spying" which the USA and the USSR have
been doing to each other (and to others) for generations.
"Hacking" to me is when somebody breaks into my
bank account and actually steals my money, not just
publicizes that I have it. I guess I'm just not honed up
enough on the increasingly poison-barbed modern
propaganda. I'll have to buy and raise some
poisoned-dart frogs to increase my usefulness to the
propaganda machinery. It's a whole new
Weltanschauung out there.
islander
2017-05-11 16:20:36 UTC
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Post by billbowden
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Post by arthur wouk
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
You seem confused. There are two issues. The issue of Clinton emails
has been brewing for a long time and was brought to light by the
Benghazi committee. This was about Clinton keeping her email
correspondence on a private server. Subsequent investigation found that
there were a few emails that, after the fact, were determined to contain
classified information. Ten days before the election, the FBI
discovered copies of some of the Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's
laptop, presumably because his wife, an assistant to Clinton, used that
laptop to print out copies of emails to give to Clinton. It was later
announced that there was no emails that had not been examined before on
that laptop, but there has been a lot of controversy about Comey
releasing that information and biasing the result of the election. No
Russian hacking was involved.

A separate FBI investigation was focused on Russian hacking of the email
account of the Democratic National Committee website to acquire
information about Bernie Sander's campaign, especially financial and
donor information. John Podesta, campaign manager for Clinton, also had
his gmail account hacked. It is claimed that the Russians did this and
leaked the information as a planned effort to either help Trump or to
discredit Clinton or both. This issue is further complicated because
NSA regularly monitors contact with foreign agents and discovered that
several members of the Trump campaign had been in contact with Russian
intelligence agents. They evidently recorded some of these phone
conversations. This leads to the suspicion that there was collusion
between the Trump campaign and the Russians resulting in release of
hacked information at critical points in the campaign.

The investigation into collusion with the Russians has since uncovered
financial dealings between members of the Trump organization and
campaign that are sufficiently troubling to have encouraged the FBI to
begin the process of convening grand juries to decide if there was
criminal activity. Comey requested more resources to pursue this
investigation. These revelation by Comey last week appear to have been
the motivation for Trump to fire him (although that is not the reason
that Trump cited). The Washington Post disclosed yesterday that they
had obtained information from 30 officials at the White House, the
Justice Department, the FBI and on Capital Hill that Comey was fired
because of his pursuit of Trump organization collusion with the Russians.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?utm_term=.39585f7b7dc3

All of this has nothing to do with Clinton emails, but the Republicans
keep wanting to distract people with that red herring.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration is leaking like a sieve, either
because they cannot get their stories straight or because people are
covering ass. Parallels are being drawn to the Nixon Saturday Night
Massacre.
El Castor
2017-05-11 19:38:42 UTC
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Post by islander
Post by billbowden
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Post by arthur wouk
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
You seem confused. There are two issues. The issue of Clinton emails
has been brewing for a long time and was brought to light by the
Benghazi committee. This was about Clinton keeping her email
correspondence on a private server. Subsequent investigation found that
there were a few emails that, after the fact, were determined to contain
classified information. Ten days before the election, the FBI
discovered copies of some of the Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's
laptop, presumably because his wife, an assistant to Clinton, used that
laptop to print out copies of emails to give to Clinton. It was later
announced that there was no emails that had not been examined before on
that laptop, but there has been a lot of controversy about Comey
releasing that information and biasing the result of the election. No
Russian hacking was involved.
"If Russia Hacked Podesta, Then Russia Knew Hillary Used A Private
Server to Email Obama" ...
"What about Clinton’s server?
If indeed Russian hackers gave WikiLeaks the DNC and Podesta emails
(there’s zero evidence backing this claim, but let’s follow the
establishment’s narrative to its logical conclusion), then Russian
intelligence would certainly have read these emails.
If indeed they hacked Clinton’s campaign, and then read Podesta’s
emails, then Russia’s GRU and FSB intelligence agencies also knew
Clinton used a private server; not a State.gov email address.
Oops."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/if-russia-hacked-podesta-then-russia-knew-hillary_us_586f6742e4b0a5e600a789c7
Post by islander
A separate FBI investigation was focused on Russian hacking of the email
account of the Democratic National Committee website to acquire
information about Bernie Sander's campaign, especially financial and
donor information. John Podesta, campaign manager for Clinton, also had
his gmail account hacked. It is claimed that the Russians did this and
leaked the information as a planned effort to either help Trump or to
discredit Clinton or both. This issue is further complicated because
NSA regularly monitors contact with foreign agents and discovered that
several members of the Trump campaign had been in contact with Russian
intelligence agents. They evidently recorded some of these phone
conversations. This leads to the suspicion that there was collusion
between the Trump campaign and the Russians resulting in release of
hacked information at critical points in the campaign.
The investigation into collusion with the Russians has since uncovered
financial dealings between members of the Trump organization and
campaign that are sufficiently troubling to have encouraged the FBI to
begin the process of convening grand juries to decide if there was
criminal activity. Comey requested more resources to pursue this
investigation. These revelation by Comey last week appear to have been
the motivation for Trump to fire him (although that is not the reason
that Trump cited). The Washington Post disclosed yesterday that they
had obtained information from 30 officials at the White House, the
Justice Department, the FBI and on Capital Hill that Comey was fired
because of his pursuit of Trump organization collusion with the Russians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?utm_term=.39585f7b7dc3
All of this has nothing to do with Clinton emails, but the Republicans
keep wanting to distract people with that red herring.
Hillary's private server contained top secret email, and probably
thousands which contained confidential and secret information. This
was, I believe, a criminal violation of the law and an indication of
her arrogant privileged attitude towards her responsibilities.
Post by islander
Meanwhile, the Trump administration is leaking like a sieve, either
because they cannot get their stories straight or because people are
covering ass. Parallels are being drawn to the Nixon Saturday Night
Massacre.
Democrats view the White House, and all of its perks, as their
personal possession, stolen by Donald Trump. Their goal is to hound
Trump out of office by any means necessary. "Parallels" will be drawn
to everything he does for the next four years, and many people, myself
included, are getting sick and tired of it. You people are digging
yourselves a very deep hole.
billbowden
2017-05-12 01:48:15 UTC
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Post by billbowden
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
You seem confused. There are two issues. The issue of Clinton emails has
been brewing for a long time and was brought to light by the Benghazi
committee. This was about Clinton keeping her email correspondence on a
private server. Subsequent investigation found that there were a few
emails that, after the fact, were determined to contain classified
information. Ten days before the election, the FBI discovered copies of
some of the Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop, presumably because
his wife, an assistant to Clinton, used that laptop to print out copies of
emails to give to Clinton. It was later announced that there was no
emails that had not been examined before on that laptop, but there has
been a lot of controversy about Comey releasing that information and
biasing the result of the election. No Russian hacking was involved.
A separate FBI investigation was focused on Russian hacking of the email
account of the Democratic National Committee website to acquire
information about Bernie Sander's campaign, especially financial and donor
information. John Podesta, campaign manager for Clinton, also had his
gmail account hacked. It is claimed that the Russians did this and leaked
the information as a planned effort to either help Trump or to discredit
Clinton or both. This issue is further complicated because NSA regularly
monitors contact with foreign agents and discovered that several members
of the Trump campaign had been in contact with Russian intelligence
agents. They evidently recorded some of these phone conversations. This
leads to the suspicion that there was collusion between the Trump campaign
and the Russians resulting in release of hacked information at critical
points in the campaign.
The investigation into collusion with the Russians has since uncovered
financial dealings between members of the Trump organization and campaign
that are sufficiently troubling to have encouraged the FBI to begin the
process of convening grand juries to decide if there was criminal
activity. Comey requested more resources to pursue this investigation.
These revelation by Comey last week appear to have been the motivation for
Trump to fire him (although that is not the reason that Trump cited). The
Washington Post disclosed yesterday that they had obtained information
from 30 officials at the White House, the Justice Department, the FBI and
on Capital Hill that Comey was fired because of his pursuit of Trump
organization collusion with the Russians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?utm_term=.39585f7b7dc3
All of this has nothing to do with Clinton emails, but the Republicans
keep wanting to distract people with that red herring.
Meanwhile, the Trump administration is leaking like a sieve, either
because they cannot get their stories straight or because people are
covering ass. Parallels are being drawn to the Nixon Saturday Night
Massacre.
I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password. So, somebody had to be given the
passwords of whatever email account was hacked. That means Joe talked to Tom
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
El Castor
2017-05-12 03:41:27 UTC
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On Thu, 11 May 2017 18:48:15 -0700, "billbowden"
Post by billbowden
Post by billbowden
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
You seem confused. There are two issues. The issue of Clinton emails has
been brewing for a long time and was brought to light by the Benghazi
committee. This was about Clinton keeping her email correspondence on a
private server. Subsequent investigation found that there were a few
emails that, after the fact, were determined to contain classified
information. Ten days before the election, the FBI discovered copies of
some of the Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop, presumably because
his wife, an assistant to Clinton, used that laptop to print out copies of
emails to give to Clinton. It was later announced that there was no
emails that had not been examined before on that laptop, but there has
been a lot of controversy about Comey releasing that information and
biasing the result of the election. No Russian hacking was involved.
A separate FBI investigation was focused on Russian hacking of the email
account of the Democratic National Committee website to acquire
information about Bernie Sander's campaign, especially financial and donor
information. John Podesta, campaign manager for Clinton, also had his
gmail account hacked. It is claimed that the Russians did this and leaked
the information as a planned effort to either help Trump or to discredit
Clinton or both. This issue is further complicated because NSA regularly
monitors contact with foreign agents and discovered that several members
of the Trump campaign had been in contact with Russian intelligence
agents. They evidently recorded some of these phone conversations. This
leads to the suspicion that there was collusion between the Trump campaign
and the Russians resulting in release of hacked information at critical
points in the campaign.
The investigation into collusion with the Russians has since uncovered
financial dealings between members of the Trump organization and campaign
that are sufficiently troubling to have encouraged the FBI to begin the
process of convening grand juries to decide if there was criminal
activity. Comey requested more resources to pursue this investigation.
These revelation by Comey last week appear to have been the motivation for
Trump to fire him (although that is not the reason that Trump cited). The
Washington Post disclosed yesterday that they had obtained information
from 30 officials at the White House, the Justice Department, the FBI and
on Capital Hill that Comey was fired because of his pursuit of Trump
organization collusion with the Russians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?utm_term=.39585f7b7dc3
All of this has nothing to do with Clinton emails, but the Republicans
keep wanting to distract people with that red herring.
Meanwhile, the Trump administration is leaking like a sieve, either
because they cannot get their stories straight or because people are
covering ass. Parallels are being drawn to the Nixon Saturday Night
Massacre.
I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password. So, somebody had to be given the
passwords of whatever email account was hacked. That means Joe talked to Tom
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
They got Podesta's password by phishing, but these days there may be
lots of ways other than a password. Hillary's server probably wasn't
even encrypted, and Huma's computer had thousands of Hillary's emails,
as did her husband's laptop
islander
2017-05-12 15:55:55 UTC
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Post by billbowden
Post by billbowden
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
You seem confused. There are two issues. The issue of Clinton emails has
been brewing for a long time and was brought to light by the Benghazi
committee. This was about Clinton keeping her email correspondence on a
private server. Subsequent investigation found that there were a few
emails that, after the fact, were determined to contain classified
information. Ten days before the election, the FBI discovered copies of
some of the Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop, presumably because
his wife, an assistant to Clinton, used that laptop to print out copies of
emails to give to Clinton. It was later announced that there was no
emails that had not been examined before on that laptop, but there has
been a lot of controversy about Comey releasing that information and
biasing the result of the election. No Russian hacking was involved.
A separate FBI investigation was focused on Russian hacking of the email
account of the Democratic National Committee website to acquire
information about Bernie Sander's campaign, especially financial and donor
information. John Podesta, campaign manager for Clinton, also had his
gmail account hacked. It is claimed that the Russians did this and leaked
the information as a planned effort to either help Trump or to discredit
Clinton or both. This issue is further complicated because NSA regularly
monitors contact with foreign agents and discovered that several members
of the Trump campaign had been in contact with Russian intelligence
agents. They evidently recorded some of these phone conversations. This
leads to the suspicion that there was collusion between the Trump campaign
and the Russians resulting in release of hacked information at critical
points in the campaign.
The investigation into collusion with the Russians has since uncovered
financial dealings between members of the Trump organization and campaign
that are sufficiently troubling to have encouraged the FBI to begin the
process of convening grand juries to decide if there was criminal
activity. Comey requested more resources to pursue this investigation.
These revelation by Comey last week appear to have been the motivation for
Trump to fire him (although that is not the reason that Trump cited). The
Washington Post disclosed yesterday that they had obtained information
from 30 officials at the White House, the Justice Department, the FBI and
on Capital Hill that Comey was fired because of his pursuit of Trump
organization collusion with the Russians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?utm_term=.39585f7b7dc3
All of this has nothing to do with Clinton emails, but the Republicans
keep wanting to distract people with that red herring.
Meanwhile, the Trump administration is leaking like a sieve, either
because they cannot get their stories straight or because people are
covering ass. Parallels are being drawn to the Nixon Saturday Night
Massacre.
I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password. So, somebody had to be given the
passwords of whatever email account was hacked. That means Joe talked to Tom
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
The attacks on Podesta's gmail and the DNC's email accounts was probably
phishing or more specifically spear phishing. These involve sending an
email to someone to fool them into revealing private information which
might include their password. For example, if you get an email that
looks like it is from your bank IT administrator asking you for account
information to help them solve a problem with your account, it is
probably phishing. The attack can be pretty convincing! Never provide
private information in response to an email! The more sophisticated
attacks include instructions to click on a link in the email or in an
attachment which inserts a Trojan horse on the target's machine. After
that, all future emails (and even data on your computer) are compromised
without the need for a password.
rumpelstiltskin
2017-05-12 17:54:50 UTC
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On Fri, 12 May 2017 08:55:55 -0700, islander <***@priracy.com> wrote:

<snip>
Post by islander
The attacks on Podesta's gmail and the DNC's email accounts was probably
phishing or more specifically spear phishing. These involve sending an
email to someone to fool them into revealing private information which
might include their password. For example, if you get an email that
looks like it is from your bank IT administrator asking you for account
information to help them solve a problem with your account, it is
probably phishing. The attack can be pretty convincing! Never provide
private information in response to an email! The more sophisticated
attacks include instructions to click on a link in the email or in an
attachment which inserts a Trojan horse on the target's machine. After
that, all future emails (and even data on your computer) are compromised
without the need for a password.
I would think that everybody would contact the supposed
agency from their own records of how to get in touch, rather
than by clicking on a link that arrived in an email. I guess a
lot of people are not cautious (or mistrustful) enough to do
that though. I'm sure the US or Russian governments
could pick up my passwords by monitoring all my keystrokes
though, if they wanted to.
islander
2017-05-12 19:23:41 UTC
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Post by rumpelstiltskin
<snip>
Post by islander
The attacks on Podesta's gmail and the DNC's email accounts was probably
phishing or more specifically spear phishing. These involve sending an
email to someone to fool them into revealing private information which
might include their password. For example, if you get an email that
looks like it is from your bank IT administrator asking you for account
information to help them solve a problem with your account, it is
probably phishing. The attack can be pretty convincing! Never provide
private information in response to an email! The more sophisticated
attacks include instructions to click on a link in the email or in an
attachment which inserts a Trojan horse on the target's machine. After
that, all future emails (and even data on your computer) are compromised
without the need for a password.
I would think that everybody would contact the supposed
agency from their own records of how to get in touch, rather
than by clicking on a link that arrived in an email. I guess a
lot of people are not cautious (or mistrustful) enough to do
that though. I'm sure the US or Russian governments
could pick up my passwords by monitoring all my keystrokes
though, if they wanted to.
Seniors are especially vulnerable. We need to find out who is selling
contact lists if this is to be prevented.
El Castor
2017-05-12 18:09:37 UTC
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Post by islander
Post by billbowden
Post by billbowden
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
You seem confused. There are two issues. The issue of Clinton emails has
been brewing for a long time and was brought to light by the Benghazi
committee. This was about Clinton keeping her email correspondence on a
private server. Subsequent investigation found that there were a few
emails that, after the fact, were determined to contain classified
information. Ten days before the election, the FBI discovered copies of
some of the Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop, presumably because
his wife, an assistant to Clinton, used that laptop to print out copies of
emails to give to Clinton. It was later announced that there was no
emails that had not been examined before on that laptop, but there has
been a lot of controversy about Comey releasing that information and
biasing the result of the election. No Russian hacking was involved.
A separate FBI investigation was focused on Russian hacking of the email
account of the Democratic National Committee website to acquire
information about Bernie Sander's campaign, especially financial and donor
information. John Podesta, campaign manager for Clinton, also had his
gmail account hacked. It is claimed that the Russians did this and leaked
the information as a planned effort to either help Trump or to discredit
Clinton or both. This issue is further complicated because NSA regularly
monitors contact with foreign agents and discovered that several members
of the Trump campaign had been in contact with Russian intelligence
agents. They evidently recorded some of these phone conversations. This
leads to the suspicion that there was collusion between the Trump campaign
and the Russians resulting in release of hacked information at critical
points in the campaign.
The investigation into collusion with the Russians has since uncovered
financial dealings between members of the Trump organization and campaign
that are sufficiently troubling to have encouraged the FBI to begin the
process of convening grand juries to decide if there was criminal
activity. Comey requested more resources to pursue this investigation.
These revelation by Comey last week appear to have been the motivation for
Trump to fire him (although that is not the reason that Trump cited). The
Washington Post disclosed yesterday that they had obtained information
from 30 officials at the White House, the Justice Department, the FBI and
on Capital Hill that Comey was fired because of his pursuit of Trump
organization collusion with the Russians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?utm_term=.39585f7b7dc3
All of this has nothing to do with Clinton emails, but the Republicans
keep wanting to distract people with that red herring.
Meanwhile, the Trump administration is leaking like a sieve, either
because they cannot get their stories straight or because people are
covering ass. Parallels are being drawn to the Nixon Saturday Night
Massacre.
I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password. So, somebody had to be given the
passwords of whatever email account was hacked. That means Joe talked to Tom
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
The attacks on Podesta's gmail and the DNC's email accounts was probably
phishing or more specifically spear phishing. These involve sending an
email to someone to fool them into revealing private information which
might include their password. For example, if you get an email that
looks like it is from your bank IT administrator asking you for account
information to help them solve a problem with your account, it is
probably phishing. The attack can be pretty convincing! Never provide
private information in response to an email! The more sophisticated
attacks include instructions to click on a link in the email or in an
attachment which inserts a Trojan horse on the target's machine. After
that, all future emails (and even data on your computer) are compromised
without the need for a password.
I got one a few days ago. These things are pervasive on the Internet.
islander
2017-05-12 19:07:22 UTC
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Post by El Castor
Post by islander
Post by billbowden
Post by billbowden
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
You seem confused. There are two issues. The issue of Clinton emails has
been brewing for a long time and was brought to light by the Benghazi
committee. This was about Clinton keeping her email correspondence on a
private server. Subsequent investigation found that there were a few
emails that, after the fact, were determined to contain classified
information. Ten days before the election, the FBI discovered copies of
some of the Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop, presumably because
his wife, an assistant to Clinton, used that laptop to print out copies of
emails to give to Clinton. It was later announced that there was no
emails that had not been examined before on that laptop, but there has
been a lot of controversy about Comey releasing that information and
biasing the result of the election. No Russian hacking was involved.
A separate FBI investigation was focused on Russian hacking of the email
account of the Democratic National Committee website to acquire
information about Bernie Sander's campaign, especially financial and donor
information. John Podesta, campaign manager for Clinton, also had his
gmail account hacked. It is claimed that the Russians did this and leaked
the information as a planned effort to either help Trump or to discredit
Clinton or both. This issue is further complicated because NSA regularly
monitors contact with foreign agents and discovered that several members
of the Trump campaign had been in contact with Russian intelligence
agents. They evidently recorded some of these phone conversations. This
leads to the suspicion that there was collusion between the Trump campaign
and the Russians resulting in release of hacked information at critical
points in the campaign.
The investigation into collusion with the Russians has since uncovered
financial dealings between members of the Trump organization and campaign
that are sufficiently troubling to have encouraged the FBI to begin the
process of convening grand juries to decide if there was criminal
activity. Comey requested more resources to pursue this investigation.
These revelation by Comey last week appear to have been the motivation for
Trump to fire him (although that is not the reason that Trump cited). The
Washington Post disclosed yesterday that they had obtained information
from 30 officials at the White House, the Justice Department, the FBI and
on Capital Hill that Comey was fired because of his pursuit of Trump
organization collusion with the Russians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?utm_term=.39585f7b7dc3
All of this has nothing to do with Clinton emails, but the Republicans
keep wanting to distract people with that red herring.
Meanwhile, the Trump administration is leaking like a sieve, either
because they cannot get their stories straight or because people are
covering ass. Parallels are being drawn to the Nixon Saturday Night
Massacre.
I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password. So, somebody had to be given the
passwords of whatever email account was hacked. That means Joe talked to Tom
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
The attacks on Podesta's gmail and the DNC's email accounts was probably
phishing or more specifically spear phishing. These involve sending an
email to someone to fool them into revealing private information which
might include their password. For example, if you get an email that
looks like it is from your bank IT administrator asking you for account
information to help them solve a problem with your account, it is
probably phishing. The attack can be pretty convincing! Never provide
private information in response to an email! The more sophisticated
attacks include instructions to click on a link in the email or in an
attachment which inserts a Trojan horse on the target's machine. After
that, all future emails (and even data on your computer) are compromised
without the need for a password.
I got one a few days ago. These things are pervasive on the Internet.
Yes, my wife and I get them almost as frequently as we get robocalls.
Some company seems to be leaking our private information.
El Castor
2017-05-13 08:48:58 UTC
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Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
As far as I know, the whole thing is about secret Clinton emails brought to
light by Russian hacking. What's wrong with that? If the establishment won't
give us the facts, we can get them from other sources, assuming it's not
fake news. But that's easy to prove. . .
You seem confused. There are two issues. The issue of Clinton emails has
been brewing for a long time and was brought to light by the Benghazi
committee. This was about Clinton keeping her email correspondence on a
private server. Subsequent investigation found that there were a few
emails that, after the fact, were determined to contain classified
information. Ten days before the election, the FBI discovered copies of
some of the Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop, presumably because
his wife, an assistant to Clinton, used that laptop to print out copies of
emails to give to Clinton. It was later announced that there was no
emails that had not been examined before on that laptop, but there has
been a lot of controversy about Comey releasing that information and
biasing the result of the election. No Russian hacking was involved.
A separate FBI investigation was focused on Russian hacking of the email
account of the Democratic National Committee website to acquire
information about Bernie Sander's campaign, especially financial and donor
information. John Podesta, campaign manager for Clinton, also had his
gmail account hacked. It is claimed that the Russians did this and leaked
the information as a planned effort to either help Trump or to discredit
Clinton or both. This issue is further complicated because NSA regularly
monitors contact with foreign agents and discovered that several members
of the Trump campaign had been in contact with Russian intelligence
agents. They evidently recorded some of these phone conversations. This
leads to the suspicion that there was collusion between the Trump campaign
and the Russians resulting in release of hacked information at critical
points in the campaign.
The investigation into collusion with the Russians has since uncovered
financial dealings between members of the Trump organization and campaign
that are sufficiently troubling to have encouraged the FBI to begin the
process of convening grand juries to decide if there was criminal
activity. Comey requested more resources to pursue this investigation.
These revelation by Comey last week appear to have been the motivation for
Trump to fire him (although that is not the reason that Trump cited). The
Washington Post disclosed yesterday that they had obtained information
from 30 officials at the White House, the Justice Department, the FBI and
on Capital Hill that Comey was fired because of his pursuit of Trump
organization collusion with the Russians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?utm_term=.39585f7b7dc3
All of this has nothing to do with Clinton emails, but the Republicans
keep wanting to distract people with that red herring.
Meanwhile, the Trump administration is leaking like a sieve, either
because they cannot get their stories straight or because people are
covering ass. Parallels are being drawn to the Nixon Saturday Night
Massacre.
I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password. So, somebody had to be given the
passwords of whatever email account was hacked. That means Joe talked to Tom
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
The attacks on Podesta's gmail and the DNC's email accounts was probably
phishing or more specifically spear phishing. These involve sending an
email to someone to fool them into revealing private information which
might include their password. For example, if you get an email that
looks like it is from your bank IT administrator asking you for account
information to help them solve a problem with your account, it is
probably phishing. The attack can be pretty convincing! Never provide
private information in response to an email! The more sophisticated
attacks include instructions to click on a link in the email or in an
attachment which inserts a Trojan horse on the target's machine. After
that, all future emails (and even data on your computer) are compromised
without the need for a password.
I got one a few days ago. These things are pervasive on the Internet.
Yes, my wife and I get them almost as frequently as we get robocalls.
Some company seems to be leaking our private information.
NOMOROBO is still working for us. In the more than a month we've been
using it, zero robos, although just once we got a call from a
suspicious number which my wife did not answer -- may or may not have
been one.

As much as I am not fond of Comcast, they do seem to be good at
filtering out spam and phishing. Very little of either.
Tzatz Ziki
2017-05-15 19:40:23 UTC
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I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password.
Are you sure about that?
Post by billbowden
So, somebody had to be given the > passwords of whatever email account was hacked. That means Joe talked
to Tom
Post by billbowden
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
You clearly have no idea how passwords can be stolen. There are other
methods of acquiring passwords, depending on system security and
response to 'phishing' attempts.
billbowden
2017-05-17 01:32:22 UTC
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Post by billbowden
I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password.
Are you sure about that?
Post by billbowden
So, somebody had to be given the > passwords of whatever email account
was hacked. That means Joe talked
to Tom
Post by billbowden
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
You clearly have no idea how passwords can be stolen. There are other
methods of acquiring passwords, depending on system security and
response to 'phishing' attempts.
Well, you clearly don't understand how to verify the trustworthiness of
'phishing' . I use the norton website at https://safeweb.norton.com/ to find
potential problems. I just looked up my own website and found no problems
here:
https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bowdenshobbycircuits.info.

I still run Win XP and have never updated it and have no desire to do so.



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islander
2017-05-17 14:17:11 UTC
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Post by billbowden
Post by Tzatz Ziki
Post by billbowden
I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password.
Are you sure about that?
Post by billbowden
So, somebody had to be given the > passwords of whatever email account
was hacked. That means Joe talked
to Tom
Post by billbowden
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
You clearly have no idea how passwords can be stolen. There are other
methods of acquiring passwords, depending on system security and
response to 'phishing' attempts.
Well, you clearly don't understand how to verify the trustworthiness of
'phishing' . I use the norton website at https://safeweb.norton.com/ to find
potential problems. I just looked up my own website and found no problems
https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bowdenshobbycircuits.info.
I still run Win XP and have never updated it and have no desire to do so.
You are vulnerable to a lot of different attacks if you are still
running XP. I have only one machine still running XP because my wife
likes some of the games on it. I keep that one off-line. She has
finally moved on to other interests and I'll either upgrade that machine
or scavenge it for spare parts.
El Castor
2017-05-17 15:31:48 UTC
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Post by islander
Post by billbowden
Post by Tzatz Ziki
Post by billbowden
I think the whole hacking idea involves passwords. Nobody hacks into an
email account without the password.
Are you sure about that?
Post by billbowden
So, somebody had to be given the > passwords of whatever email account
was hacked. That means Joe talked
to Tom
Post by billbowden
and Tom talked to Fred, and Fred got into the email account. So, somebody
had to know the password for the Clinton emails on her private server. Who
would that be?
You clearly have no idea how passwords can be stolen. There are other
methods of acquiring passwords, depending on system security and
response to 'phishing' attempts.
Well, you clearly don't understand how to verify the trustworthiness of
'phishing' . I use the norton website at https://safeweb.norton.com/ to find
potential problems. I just looked up my own website and found no problems
https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bowdenshobbycircuits.info.
I still run Win XP and have never updated it and have no desire to do so.
You are vulnerable to a lot of different attacks if you are still
running XP. I have only one machine still running XP because my wife
likes some of the games on it. I keep that one off-line. She has
finally moved on to other interests and I'll either upgrade that machine
or scavenge it for spare parts.
At the very least, it's worth applying the WannaCry patch. I'm running
Win 10, but I still have automatic updates turned on, backup my data
with a handy free utility called SyncBack, and do an incremental
backup to a USB drive once a month. If ransomware gets me I'll be
damned if I'll pay one cent to some crook.

By the way -- my spell checker thinks WannaCry should be spelled
"Anarchy". (-8
billbowden
2017-05-17 19:01:07 UTC
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Post by Tzatz Ziki
You clearly have no idea how passwords can be stolen. There are other
methods of acquiring passwords, depending on system security and
response to 'phishing' attempts.
Well, you clearly don't understand how to verify the trustworthiness of
'phishing' . I use the norton website at https://safeweb.norton.com/ to find
potential problems. I just looked up my own website and found no problems
https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bowdenshobbycircuits.info.
I still run Win XP and have never updated it and have no desire to do so.
You are vulnerable to a lot of different attacks if you are still running
XP. I have only one machine still running XP because my wife likes some
of the games on it. I keep that one off-line. She has finally moved on
to other interests and I'll either upgrade that machine or scavenge it for
spare parts.
I'm going to Texas next month to attend my grand Niece's HS graduation. Her
father is the IT manager for an entire military base. So, he should know
something about security. I'll try and find out the details of how
vulnerable I am. But there's nothing on this machine of any value anyway, so
the only inconvenience would be re-formatting the disk and installing a few
apps.
islander
2017-05-17 19:45:55 UTC
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Post by billbowden
Post by billbowden
Post by Tzatz Ziki
You clearly have no idea how passwords can be stolen. There are other
methods of acquiring passwords, depending on system security and
response to 'phishing' attempts.
Well, you clearly don't understand how to verify the trustworthiness of
'phishing' . I use the norton website at https://safeweb.norton.com/ to find
potential problems. I just looked up my own website and found no problems
https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bowdenshobbycircuits.info.
I still run Win XP and have never updated it and have no desire to do so.
You are vulnerable to a lot of different attacks if you are still running
XP. I have only one machine still running XP because my wife likes some
of the games on it. I keep that one off-line. She has finally moved on
to other interests and I'll either upgrade that machine or scavenge it for
spare parts.
I'm going to Texas next month to attend my grand Niece's HS graduation. Her
father is the IT manager for an entire military base. So, he should know
something about security. I'll try and find out the details of how
vulnerable I am. But there's nothing on this machine of any value anyway, so
the only inconvenience would be re-formatting the disk and installing a few
apps.
Be sure to tell him what you use the machine for, if it is connected to
the Internet, if you have a local network with other computers tied to
it, what security package you are using and is it up to date.
Tzatz Ziki
2017-05-17 20:12:14 UTC
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Post by billbowden
Well, you clearly don't understand how to verify the trustworthiness of
'phishing' . I use the norton website at https://safeweb.norton.com/ to find
potential problems. I just looked up my own website and found no problems
https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bowdenshobbycircuits.info.
What you clearly don't understand is that I understand far more than you
think (and I use that word guardedly in application to you), and that
all you're doing is telling me that you have no idea how phishing and
similar scams work.
Post by billbowden
I still run Win XP and have never updated it and have no desire to do so.
Thanks for the proof that you're clueless.
billbowden
2017-05-17 20:57:58 UTC
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Post by Tzatz Ziki
Post by billbowden
Well, you clearly don't understand how to verify the trustworthiness of
'phishing' . I use the norton website at https://safeweb.norton.com/ to find
potential problems. I just looked up my own website and found no problems
https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bowdenshobbycircuits.info.
What you clearly don't understand is that I understand far more than you
think (and I use that word guardedly in application to you), and that
all you're doing is telling me that you have no idea how phishing and
similar scams work.
Post by billbowden
I still run Win XP and have never updated it and have no desire to do so.
Thanks for the proof that you're clueless.
So, why don't you tell us exactly how it works if you have any idea? I'm
all ears and willing to learn.
Tzatz Ziki
2017-05-18 05:42:47 UTC
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So, why don't you tell us exactly how it works if you have any idea? I'm
all ears and willing to learn.
A phishing scam works by taking you to a site with no known viruses, so
anti-virus programs don't necessarily work (unless you go there after
the site is flagged as 'dangerous' and the anti-virus software issues a
warning). In addition to anti-virus software updates, the OS itself is
periodically updated, including efforts to "harden" it against certain
software exploits, so as to be less vulnerable to such scams.

If you are fooled by phishing into going to what looks like a legitimate
site and entering login information, that's the most obvious attack.
Your information has been entered, and now the hackers have it. Your
reward could be anything from adding your PC to a botnet to deploying
ransomware. There are plenty of things in between. Most all of them
are really not very pleasant.

Ransomware? That's the creepy stuff that's been in the news lately,
and it's most easily deployed on PCs running out-of-date OS's like
Windows XP. Microsoft stopped supporting and updating XP years ago
(with certain possible exceptions that require special paid vendor
support), and any exploits that allow XP to be cracked can be
deployed nearly at will. XP systems are highly vulnerable. Anyone
connecting an XP box to the internet is simply daring fate to come
in and mess his PC up good.

As to your little circuit-diagram site, it's of virtually no
interest to anyone (other than people who want to look at an
electrical circuit), since it's probably not worth exploiting.
Someone might find away to break into the host server for other
exploits, though.
billbowden
2017-05-18 21:32:29 UTC
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Post by billbowden
So, why don't you tell us exactly how it works if you have any idea? I'm
all ears and willing to learn.
A phishing scam works by taking you to a site with no known viruses, so
anti-virus programs don't necessarily work (unless you go there after
the site is flagged as 'dangerous' and the anti-virus software issues a
warning). In addition to anti-virus software updates, the OS itself is
periodically updated, including efforts to "harden" it against certain
software exploits, so as to be less vulnerable to such scams.
If you are fooled by phishing into going to what looks like a legitimate
site and entering login information, that's the most obvious attack.
Your information has been entered, and now the hackers have it. Your
reward could be anything from adding your PC to a botnet to deploying
ransomware. There are plenty of things in between. Most all of them
are really not very pleasant.
Ransomware? That's the creepy stuff that's been in the news lately,
and it's most easily deployed on PCs running out-of-date OS's like
Windows XP. Microsoft stopped supporting and updating XP years ago
(with certain possible exceptions that require special paid vendor
support), and any exploits that allow XP to be cracked can be
deployed nearly at will. XP systems are highly vulnerable. Anyone
connecting an XP box to the internet is simply daring fate to come
in and mess his PC up good.
As to your little circuit-diagram site, it's of virtually no
interest to anyone (other than people who want to look at an
electrical circuit), since it's probably not worth exploiting.
Someone might find away to break into the host server for other
exploits, though.
The website is hosted at AT&T which I imagine is hard to break into. The
site has a google ranking of 4 out of 10 and is worth $1610.93 according to
the link below. I only get 93 visitors a day. At one time I was getting
1300. Many pirates have copied my circuits and posted them elsewhere, so
it's not hard to find the circuits posted in several other places. But
that's the way of the internet. Steal everything and then claim ownership.


http://www.netvaluator.com/www/bowdenshobbycircuits.info



.
billbowden
2017-05-18 22:40:36 UTC
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Post by Tzatz Ziki
Post by billbowden
So, why don't you tell us exactly how it works if you have any idea?
I'm
all ears and willing to learn.
A phishing scam works by taking you to a site with no known viruses, so
anti-virus programs don't necessarily work (unless you go there after
the site is flagged as 'dangerous' and the anti-virus software issues a
warning). In addition to anti-virus software updates, the OS itself is
periodically updated, including efforts to "harden" it against certain
software exploits, so as to be less vulnerable to such scams.
If you are fooled by phishing into going to what looks like a legitimate
site and entering login information, that's the most obvious attack.
Your information has been entered, and now the hackers have it. Your
reward could be anything from adding your PC to a botnet to deploying
ransomware. There are plenty of things in between. Most all of them
are really not very pleasant.
Ransomware? That's the creepy stuff that's been in the news lately,
and it's most easily deployed on PCs running out-of-date OS's like
Windows XP. Microsoft stopped supporting and updating XP years ago
(with certain possible exceptions that require special paid vendor
support), and any exploits that allow XP to be cracked can be
deployed nearly at will. XP systems are highly vulnerable. Anyone
connecting an XP box to the internet is simply daring fate to come
in and mess his PC up good.
As to your little circuit-diagram site, it's of virtually no
interest to anyone (other than people who want to look at an
electrical circuit), since it's probably not worth exploiting.
Someone might find away to break into the host server for other
exploits, though.
The website is hosted at AT&T which I imagine is hard to break into. The
site has a google ranking of 4 out of 10 and is worth $1610.93 according
to the link below. I only get 93 visitors a day. At one time I was getting
1300. Many pirates have copied my circuits and posted them elsewhere, so
it's not hard to find the circuits posted in several other places. But
that's the way of the internet. Steal everything and then claim ownership.
http://www.netvaluator.com/www/bowdenshobbycircuits.info
I found another rating source that says the website is worth 3K and can
generate $204 a month in revenue if I post enough adds.

http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/www.bowdenshobbycircuits.info/
islander
2017-05-19 00:27:21 UTC
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Post by billbowden
Post by billbowden
Post by Tzatz Ziki
Post by billbowden
So, why don't you tell us exactly how it works if you have any idea?
I'm
all ears and willing to learn.
A phishing scam works by taking you to a site with no known viruses, so
anti-virus programs don't necessarily work (unless you go there after
the site is flagged as 'dangerous' and the anti-virus software issues a
warning). In addition to anti-virus software updates, the OS itself is
periodically updated, including efforts to "harden" it against certain
software exploits, so as to be less vulnerable to such scams.
If you are fooled by phishing into going to what looks like a legitimate
site and entering login information, that's the most obvious attack.
Your information has been entered, and now the hackers have it. Your
reward could be anything from adding your PC to a botnet to deploying
ransomware. There are plenty of things in between. Most all of them
are really not very pleasant.
Ransomware? That's the creepy stuff that's been in the news lately,
and it's most easily deployed on PCs running out-of-date OS's like
Windows XP. Microsoft stopped supporting and updating XP years ago
(with certain possible exceptions that require special paid vendor
support), and any exploits that allow XP to be cracked can be
deployed nearly at will. XP systems are highly vulnerable. Anyone
connecting an XP box to the internet is simply daring fate to come
in and mess his PC up good.
As to your little circuit-diagram site, it's of virtually no
interest to anyone (other than people who want to look at an
electrical circuit), since it's probably not worth exploiting.
Someone might find away to break into the host server for other
exploits, though.
The website is hosted at AT&T which I imagine is hard to break into. The
site has a google ranking of 4 out of 10 and is worth $1610.93 according
to the link below. I only get 93 visitors a day. At one time I was getting
1300. Many pirates have copied my circuits and posted them elsewhere, so
it's not hard to find the circuits posted in several other places. But
that's the way of the internet. Steal everything and then claim ownership.
http://www.netvaluator.com/www/bowdenshobbycircuits.info
I found another rating source that says the website is worth 3K and can
generate $204 a month in revenue if I post enough adds.
http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/www.bowdenshobbycircuits.info/
Do you have a favorite place to buy components on the Internet? I may
have to build something to replace a part of my home automation system
that is no longer manufactured.
billbowden
2017-05-19 18:58:14 UTC
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Post by billbowden
Post by billbowden
The website is hosted at AT&T which I imagine is hard to break into. The
site has a google ranking of 4 out of 10 and is worth $1610.93 according
to the link below. I only get 93 visitors a day. At one time I was getting
1300. Many pirates have copied my circuits and posted them elsewhere, so
it's not hard to find the circuits posted in several other places. But
that's the way of the internet. Steal everything and then claim ownership.
http://www.netvaluator.com/www/bowdenshobbycircuits.info
I found another rating source that says the website is worth 3K and can
generate $204 a month in revenue if I post enough adds.
http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/www.bowdenshobbycircuits.info/
Do you have a favorite place to buy components on the Internet? I may
have to build something to replace a part of my home automation system
that is no longer manufactured.
I've only shopped on ebay or Digikey. For obsolete parts there is a place
called 4Star Electronics. I see they have 13,000 old 8080 processors and
they have 65 million other ancient parts.

http://www.4starelectronics.com/

https://www.digikey.com/
islander
2017-05-20 01:34:33 UTC
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Post by billbowden
Post by islander
Post by billbowden
Post by billbowden
The website is hosted at AT&T which I imagine is hard to break into. The
site has a google ranking of 4 out of 10 and is worth $1610.93 according
to the link below. I only get 93 visitors a day. At one time I was getting
1300. Many pirates have copied my circuits and posted them elsewhere, so
it's not hard to find the circuits posted in several other places. But
that's the way of the internet. Steal everything and then claim ownership.
http://www.netvaluator.com/www/bowdenshobbycircuits.info
I found another rating source that says the website is worth 3K and can
generate $204 a month in revenue if I post enough adds.
http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/www.bowdenshobbycircuits.info/
Do you have a favorite place to buy components on the Internet? I may
have to build something to replace a part of my home automation system
that is no longer manufactured.
I've only shopped on ebay or Digikey. For obsolete parts there is a place
called 4Star Electronics. I see they have 13,000 old 8080 processors and
they have 65 million other ancient parts.
http://www.4starelectronics.com/
https://www.digikey.com/
Thanks, I'll check them out.

GLOBALIST
2017-05-11 16:42:51 UTC
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Post by arthur wouk
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING.
TRUMP WAS ELECTED TO DRAIN THE SWAMP
IF YOU CAN NoT DO YOUR JOB YOU ARE FIRED
ALL VERY SIMPLE.
The Democrats wanted Comey fired.
President Trump spent 3 days exploring
the idea and he did it.
No constitutional crises at all.
Trump is the boss and Comey was an employee
Jack Fate
2017-05-11 16:47:08 UTC
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MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING. TRUMP WAS ELECTED TO DRAIN THE SWAMP IF YOU
CAN NoT DO YOUR JOB YOU ARE FIRED ALL VERY SIMPLE. The Democrats
wanted Comey fired. President Trump spent 3 days exploring the idea
and he did it. No constitutional crises at all. Trump is the boss and
Comey was an employee
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History is repeating itself, low IQ alt right racist and bigoted dip shit.
Sang Froid
2017-05-14 21:25:39 UTC
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History
"...but I will no longer be posting here. No one here is going to change
so, basically, I'm wasting the little time I have left by posting to
this obscure little group full of stupid bigoted and racist Trump
lovers."
Lawrence Akutagawa
2017-05-11 19:39:26 UTC
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Post by arthur wouk
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING.
TRUMP WAS ELECTED TO DRAIN THE SWAMP
IF YOU CAN NoT DO YOUR JOB YOU ARE FIRED
ALL VERY SIMPLE.
The Democrats wanted Comey fired.
President Trump spent 3 days exploring
the idea and he did it.
No constitutional crises at all.
Trump is the boss and Comey was an employee

***** This line separates my response from the foregoing ******

Ha Ha Ha!!
Behold how the Village Idiot again entertain us all with his crappy crappy
English!

You, Village Idiot, are so very very *F*U*N*N*Y* with your crappy crappy
English!

Why, Village Idiot, are you with your crappy crappy English still in this
country?

wups...just look at the Village Idiot run away again from the issue of his
crappy crappy English by performing yet another Intellectual Coward ploy, of
course with his tail barely perceivable between his legs this time, back
into that deep dark diseased hole of his under his rock!
Lawrence Akutagawa
2017-05-11 20:16:42 UTC
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Post by rumpelstiltskin
Post by arthur wouk
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
Does anybody actually believe those morning-mist stories
about "Russian interference" in the US election anymore,
especially considering how routinely and how casually
we're lied to by the "classified" government?
I supported Marine LePen in the recent French election,
so I suppose that means I was a "foreign influence" on
the French election.
MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING.
TRUMP WAS ELECTED TO DRAIN THE SWAMP
IF YOU CAN NoT DO YOUR JOB YOU ARE FIRED
ALL VERY SIMPLE.
The Democrats wanted Comey fired.
President Trump spent 3 days exploring
the idea and he did it.
No constitutional crises at all.
Trump is the boss and Comey was an employee

***** This line separates my response from the foregoing ******

Here - on the very day that he the fake news loving Village Idiot returns
after a two day hiatus - the fake news loving Village Idiot yet once again
displays openly and clearly his penchant for creating and spreading fake
news, by saying"
"President Trump spent 3 days exploring the idea and he did it."

Yet...yet...fake news loving Village Idiot, do read - and understand - the
following:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comey-timeline/story?id=47322295
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/timeline-donald-trump-decided-fire-james-comey-article-1.3153476
http://fortune.com/2017/05/10/james-comey-fired-timeline/

Do tell us, Village Idiot, where oh where in those links is your 3 day
statement substantiated? Better yet, Village Idiot, do provide your very
own verifiable substantiation of your Village Idiot statement:
"President Trump spent 3 days exploring the idea and he did it."

As usual, fake news loving Village Idiot, all that you the fake news loving
Village Idiot offer - instead of verifiable substantiation - is only that
great big gigantic huge humongous mouth of yours.

Yet once again, fake news loving Village Idiot, exactly why do you the fake
news loving Village Idiot do so much love to create and spread fake news as
you clearly do here yet once more?

Please clarify, Village Idiot.
ha ha ha

Just look at the Village Idiot again perform for us his Intellectual Coward
ploy to run away again from the issue, of course with his tail high between
his legs, back into that deep dark despicable hole of his under his rock!
mg
2017-05-11 01:38:49 UTC
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Post by arthur wouk
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/democrats-trump-firing-comey-could-raise-grave-constitutional-issues-video
Democratic senator Dick Durbin has questioned the timing of
President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey, saying it
raises concerns as to whether the FBI investigation of Russian
interference in the last presidential campaign will be
compromised as a result.
What one hears over and over and over again are terms like
Russian "interference", or "meddling". Is that illegal? Is
it illegal for a foreign country to meddle in our elections?
If it was possible to wake one of the founders up from the
dead, I suspect that he would say that it was encouraged and
I doubt if anybody ever thought that we were doing anything
wrong with our old Voice of America broadcasts, for
instance.

So, assuming that meddling isn't illegal, what would be the
purpose of a criminal investigation? If it's computer
hacking, why don't they say "computer hacking"? My bet is
that the reason they don't is that they know that there's no
evidence of that.
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