On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 20:25:11 -0800, "billbowden"
Post by billbowdenPost by rumpelstiltskinOn Fri, 3 Mar 2017 03:32:20 -0800, "billbowden"
Post by billbowdenPost by rumpelstiltskin<snip>
Post by JackPineSavagePost by wolfbat359Then how come she got some where around 3 million more votes than Trump???
One word - California.
That's why California needs to be a separate country.
We don't have enough in common with much of the
rest of the USA, particularly the Bible Belt.
If California becomes a separate country, how will it replace the 50 billion
in federal aid it no longer gets?
My understanding is that the federal government
collects far more from California than California
gets back, which money goes to support perpetual
war and states that get back more than they give,
among other things. In that case, if California
splits off, it won't be supplying that money to the
government anymore. We'll have to create our
own defense machine of course, to protect us
against invasion from China in particular, but
hopefully California's defense won't be as bloated
and as feed-the-rich as the current US defense
machine.
According to the Wiki article below, the federal
government collected 405 billion from California
in 2015.
https://en.wikipe201dia.org/wiki/Federal_tax_revenue_by_state
That's not the highest per capita. According to
the maps below the main tables at that page,
Delaware and DC give the biggest proportion, with
Minnesota and New Jersey and Connecticut
following among the bigger states. In the case of
Connecticut, I'd bet the bulk comes not from the
people, but from the monstrous health care industry
centered there under the USA's piratical health
system (which can be expected to become even
more piratical under the new administration).
Connecticut is a rich state anyway though, even
without counting health care piracy.
According to this, California gets more federal aid than any other state.
http://www.lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/131
"California Receives More Federal Money Than Any Other State. In FFY
2012-13, California received $343 billion in federal spending. As shown in
Figure 1, that amount was more than any other state received and about $100
billion more than the next largest recipient of federal funds, Texas. In
absolute terms, California receives the largest quantity of federal funding
because it has the nation's largest population."
According to my URL, California paid:
FY 2011 $281 billion (Oct 1 2010 - Sept 30 2011)
FY 2012 $292 billion (Oct 1 2011 - Sept 30 2012)
FY 2015 $405 billion (Oct 1 2014 - Sept 30 2015)
I don't know what range of dates is covered by
"FFY" in your URL, but whatever it is, it can't be
any worse than a "FY" at my URL that runs from
October to September!
Anyhow, even if California gets more aid than
it receives (which I very much doubt), that's all the
more reason you should be jumping for joy if we
secede! Everybody will be happy! I sure will be
happy. As I mentioned, I'll even apply for California
citizenship right away, though I've never applied for
American citizenship despite living in the USA since
1951.
1945-1951 Yorkshire (near Rotherham)
1951-1966 Massachusetts (near Fall River)
1966-1969 upstate New York (Endicott)
1969-now California (San Francisco)
If I had to live anywhere in the USA other
than California, I'd pick New York City. If I
went back to England, I'd pick London.
"Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who
is willing to leave London. No, Sir, when a man is
tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in
London all that life can afford."
Samuel Johnson