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Emily
2018-01-11 15:45:00 UTC
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Has anyone bought this program?

I've been running the free version but it didn't seem to be working
the way it used to so I bit the bullet and paid for the damned thing
but I've gotten thoroughly confused somewhere. I've downloaded it
twice and no matter what I do, when I click on the shortcut I get a
window that tells me I'm running the free version.

Predictably, there is no help available online except for one of those
damned "community help" things. Supposedly there's a way to chat with
someone but when I tried that, I got the message that there was no one
available at this time.

If anyone can offer any help with this seriously irritating problem, I
shall be eternally grateful.
Emily
2018-01-11 15:49:28 UTC
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I just received the magic number via e-mail and the damned thing is
finally working.
rumpelstiltskin
2018-01-11 16:43:46 UTC
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I just received the magic number via e-mail and the damned thing is
finally working.
That's good news. I run the free version myself, though
only occasionally. It's probably too soon to ask you, but
have you noticed any additional functionality to the paid
version? The free version seems to me to do everything
I would want. I also have Zone Alarm and Microsoft
Security essentials, both free, monitoring my system.
I run Microsoft Security Essentials and (I think) Zone
Alarm separately sometimes too, and they do discover
some "PUPs" (Potentially Unwanted Programs), but
those have all been advertising junk, not anything
really malicious, so far.

The pop-up-blockers available for Firefox don't seem
to be running well at all anymore. Firefox admits that
it can't block all popups, but the situation is much worse
now. Maybe the people who make Popups have gotten
"smarter" about defeating the blockers. On principle,
I always delete an unasked-for popup as soon as it
appears, with only enough of a glance at it to see where
it came from.
Emily
2018-01-11 17:05:16 UTC
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Post by Emily
I just received the magic number via e-mail and the damned thing is
finally working.
That's good news. I run the free version myself, though
only occasionally. It's probably too soon to ask you, but
have you noticed any additional functionality to the paid
version? The free version seems to me to do everything
I would want.
The free version had started acting strangely. It appeared to have
stopped going online for updates which it used to do first thing when
I started it up.

I leave my computer on and just turn off the internet access and close
the lid when I go to bed at night. I turn off the computer every two
to three weeks, start it up again and run Malwarebytes and CCleaner.
The CCleaner always finds a bunch of junk which I delete, but
Malwarebytes has never found anything.

The computer has been running more slowly than ever lately and had
developed an irksome habit of not responding to the arrow keys
sometimes when I'm doing a jigsaw puzzle, which I waste a lot of time
doing except I really don't think of it as wasting time since I'm also
listening to a book at the same time.
Post by rumpelstiltskin
I also have Zone Alarm and Microsoft
Security essentials, both free, monitoring my system.
I run Microsoft Security Essentials and (I think) Zone
Alarm separately sometimes too, and they do discover
some "PUPs" (Potentially Unwanted Programs), but
those have all been advertising junk, not anything
really malicious, so far.
I think I also have those and used to run them but haven't in a long
time. I sort of assumed that the MS program would want me to download
the latest updates which I stopped doing ages ago after I downloaded
them and they screwed up a bunch of stuff. It's been a while so of
course I've forgotten the details.
Post by rumpelstiltskin
The pop-up-blockers available for Firefox don't seem
to be running well at all anymore. Firefox admits that
it can't block all popups, but the situation is much worse
now. Maybe the people who make Popups have gotten
"smarter" about defeating the blockers. On principle,
I always delete an unasked-for popup as soon as it
appears, with only enough of a glance at it to see where
it came from.
I use Chrome and have never tried a popup blocker. I just avoid, as
much as possible, going to any web sites to read the rest of something
intriguing that shows up on Facebook because I know there will be ads
running alongside whatever I'm trying to read. That wouldn't bother
me so much except that I assume it's using up my precious download
quota. Right now we have 4.1 GB left to last until midnight on the
19th. In a couple of days I'll have to make a choice between paying
$10 for one more lousy GB or not being able to watch any videos or
access some sites. I'll probably choose to just let it crawl since I
can still get soc.retirement, FB, jigsaw puzzles and e-mail.
rumpelstiltskin
2018-01-11 19:20:22 UTC
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Post by Emily
I just received the magic number via e-mail and the damned thing is
finally working.
That's good news. I run the free version myself, though
only occasionally. It's probably too soon to ask you, but
have you noticed any additional functionality to the paid
version? The free version seems to me to do everything
I would want.
The free version had started acting strangely. It appeared to have
stopped going online for updates which it used to do first thing when
I started it up.
Updates should be accompanied with the message
"Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."
Post by Emily
I leave my computer on and just turn off the internet access and close
the lid when I go to bed at night. I turn off the computer every two
to three weeks, start it up again and run Malwarebytes and CCleaner.
The CCleaner always finds a bunch of junk which I delete, but
Malwarebytes has never found anything.
The computer has been running more slowly than ever lately and had
developed an irksome habit of not responding to the arrow keys
sometimes when I'm doing a jigsaw puzzle, which I waste a lot of time
doing except I really don't think of it as wasting time since I'm also
listening to a book at the same time.
Post by rumpelstiltskin
I also have Zone Alarm and Microsoft
Security essentials, both free, monitoring my system.
I run Microsoft Security Essentials and (I think) Zone
Alarm separately sometimes too, and they do discover
some "PUPs" (Potentially Unwanted Programs), but
those have all been advertising junk, not anything
really malicious, so far.
I think I also have those and used to run them but haven't in a long
time. I sort of assumed that the MS program would want me to download
the latest updates which I stopped doing ages ago after I downloaded
them and they screwed up a bunch of stuff. It's been a while so of
course I've forgotten the details.
Microsoft tries to coerce people into uploading lousy updates
many other ways, but Microsoft Security Essentials is not one
of those ways.
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Post by rumpelstiltskin
The pop-up-blockers available for Firefox don't seem
to be running well at all anymore. Firefox admits that
it can't block all popups, but the situation is much worse
now. Maybe the people who make Popups have gotten
"smarter" about defeating the blockers. On principle,
I always delete an unasked-for popup as soon as it
appears, with only enough of a glance at it to see where
it came from.
I use Chrome and have never tried a popup blocker. I just avoid, as
much as possible, going to any web sites to read the rest of something
intriguing that shows up on Facebook because I know there will be ads
running alongside whatever I'm trying to read. That wouldn't bother
me so much except that I assume it's using up my precious download
quota. Right now we have 4.1 GB left to last until midnight on the
19th. In a couple of days I'll have to make a choice between paying
$10 for one more lousy GB or not being able to watch any videos or
access some sites. I'll probably choose to just let it crawl since I
can still get soc.retirement, FB, jigsaw puzzles and e-mail.
I think I may have unlimited downloads, but perhaps
I just have never reached the limit because I don't like
sentimental and/or vacuous Hollywood slop.
Emily
2018-01-11 22:17:45 UTC
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I use Chrome and have never tried a popup blocker. I just avoid, as
much as possible, going to any web sites to read the rest of something
intriguing that shows up on Facebook because I know there will be ads
running alongside whatever I'm trying to read. That wouldn't bother
me so much except that I assume it's using up my precious download
quota. Right now we have 4.1 GB left to last until midnight on the
19th. In a couple of days I'll have to make a choice between paying
$10 for one more lousy GB or not being able to watch any videos or
access some sites. I'll probably choose to just let it crawl since I
can still get soc.retirement, FB, jigsaw puzzles and e-mail.
I think I may have unlimited downloads, but perhaps
I just have never reached the limit because I don't like
sentimental and/or vacuous Hollywood slop.
I would bet heavily that you have unlimited downloads. Most people
who live in civilization do. My daughter has Comcast and my cousin
has Verizon and if there are any limits, neither has ever run into
them. The cousin I used to visit before she moved to Oregon and
quickly died had Verizon as part of a package deal and she never used
her computer so when I visited I downloaded every book on the Usenet
groups that looked even mildly interesting and never ran into any
limits. I just us fools who live in the boondocks who get screwed
this way.

When I mentioned videos, I didn't mean actual movies. I meant seeing
a five minute video that someone had posted on FB. Amazon frequently
reminds me that as a Prime user, I can watch movies at no extra
charge. Yeah, right. Not from Amazon but from WildBlue, from whom we
get this lousy internet service.
islander
2018-01-11 22:59:48 UTC
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I use Chrome and have never tried a popup blocker. I just avoid, as
much as possible, going to any web sites to read the rest of something
intriguing that shows up on Facebook because I know there will be ads
running alongside whatever I'm trying to read. That wouldn't bother
me so much except that I assume it's using up my precious download
quota. Right now we have 4.1 GB left to last until midnight on the
19th. In a couple of days I'll have to make a choice between paying
$10 for one more lousy GB or not being able to watch any videos or
access some sites. I'll probably choose to just let it crawl since I
can still get soc.retirement, FB, jigsaw puzzles and e-mail.
I think I may have unlimited downloads, but perhaps
I just have never reached the limit because I don't like
sentimental and/or vacuous Hollywood slop.
I would bet heavily that you have unlimited downloads. Most people
who live in civilization do. My daughter has Comcast and my cousin
has Verizon and if there are any limits, neither has ever run into
them. The cousin I used to visit before she moved to Oregon and
quickly died had Verizon as part of a package deal and she never used
her computer so when I visited I downloaded every book on the Usenet
groups that looked even mildly interesting and never ran into any
limits. I just us fools who live in the boondocks who get screwed
this way.
When I mentioned videos, I didn't mean actual movies. I meant seeing
a five minute video that someone had posted on FB. Amazon frequently
reminds me that as a Prime user, I can watch movies at no extra
charge. Yeah, right. Not from Amazon but from WildBlue, from whom we
get this lousy internet service.
Ah, you are still using satellite service. It doesn't scale well so you
pay extra for bandwidth. If you have neighbors who also want more
bandwidth at an affordable price and if you have someone who is
technically savvy, you could take matters into your own hands and
install a wireless system. Our system has 60 users and costs us only
$35 per month for nearly unlimited bandwidth.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/

The radios are really inexpensive and the biggest recurring cost is for
a 300Mb link to the mainland. We recently installed a second link to an
alternative supplier in order to assure 24/7 reliability. Otherwise,
occasionally a tree goes down in the wind and service for part of the
network is interrupted until another tree can be found. Oh yes, we once
had a problem with a radio on a pole in the middle of a pasture where
the sheep decided to eat the extension cord that powered the radio.

The link to our place is across about 3 miles of water and we
occasionally have bandwidth problems during high tide. They cannot seem
to find a tree tall enough to get over the water!

Chris, in the video, is the techie behind all this and we are all
grateful that he enjoys doing this as his contribution to the community.
About two years ago he captured the interest of another techie in
Alaska who helps with customer support (remotely of course).
b flanier
2018-01-12 07:37:47 UTC
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Ah, you are still using satellite service. It doesn't scale well so you
pay extra for bandwidth. If you have neighbors who also want more
bandwidth at an affordable price and if you have someone who is
technically savvy, you could take matters into your own hands and
install a wireless system. ...
I am surprised that you are not violating the TOS of your provider.
How did you avoid that issue with the bandits? Your community is
perfect for a Wi-Fi system as you have found out. Emily, out in
boonies, is not so lucky.

I'm also surprised more groups, think trailer park residents, don't
use this method. There is an interesting service that provides internet
for about $10 a month for means tested individuals using cell technology.
Don't know about bandwidth/usage issues but are looking into it. This
is a newer version of the outdated "freenet" arraignment that still is
viable in Canada and certain cities (Seattle http://cpsr.org/prevsite/publications/factsheet/scn.htm/).
islander
2018-01-12 15:30:38 UTC
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Ah, you are still using satellite service. It doesn't scale well so you
pay extra for bandwidth. If you have neighbors who also want more
bandwidth at an affordable price and if you have someone who is
technically savvy, you could take matters into your own hands and
install a wireless system. ...
I am surprised that you are not violating the TOS of your provider.
How did you avoid that issue with the bandits? Your community is
perfect for a Wi-Fi system as you have found out. Emily, out in
boonies, is not so lucky.
I'm also surprised more groups, think trailer park residents, don't
use this method. There is an interesting service that provides internet
for about $10 a month for means tested individuals using cell technology.
Don't know about bandwidth/usage issues but are looking into it. This
is a newer version of the outdated "freenet" arraignment that still is
viable in Canada and certain cities (Seattle http://cpsr.org/prevsite/publications/factsheet/scn.htm/).
Our provider(s) sell us access to their system. Essentially they are
wholesalers and we take care of the last mile. I don't know how far out
in the boonies that Emily lives, but the approach is well suited to
sparsely populated areas. All you need is a line-of-sight path. The
radios cost very little.
rumpelstiltskin
2018-01-12 18:04:36 UTC
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Ah, you are still using satellite service. It doesn't scale well so you
pay extra for bandwidth. If you have neighbors who also want more
bandwidth at an affordable price and if you have someone who is
technically savvy, you could take matters into your own hands and
install a wireless system. ...
I am surprised that you are not violating the TOS of your provider.
How did you avoid that issue with the bandits? Your community is
perfect for a Wi-Fi system as you have found out. Emily, out in
boonies, is not so lucky.
I'm also surprised more groups, think trailer park residents, don't
use this method. There is an interesting service that provides internet
for about $10 a month for means tested individuals using cell technology.
Don't know about bandwidth/usage issues but are looking into it. This
is a newer version of the outdated "freenet" arraignment that still is
viable in Canada and certain cities (Seattle http://cpsr.org/prevsite/publications/factsheet/scn.htm/).
Our provider(s) sell us access to their system. Essentially they are
wholesalers and we take care of the last mile. I don't know how far out
in the boonies that Emily lives, but the approach is well suited to
sparsely populated areas. All you need is a line-of-sight path. The
radios cost very little.
Line-of-sight paths are a problem in hilly San Francisco.
I have antenna TV and can't get NBC because the radio
waves from the NBC transmitter on San Bruno Mountain
can't bend enough to get over the hill just south of me,
even though radio waves bend more than light waves.
The other channels broadcast from the Sutro Tower on
Twin peaks, which I can see from the right panel of
my front-room bay window.

I don't really miss NBC. It's the least interesting of
the big 3: CBS, ABC, NBC. If I couldn't get PBS, that
would be a problem though. All the best "classy"
stuff is on PBS. We have KQED in San Francisco,
one of the best PBS stations in the country. I
contribute to them every year.
islander
2018-01-13 00:50:42 UTC
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Ah, you are still using satellite service. It doesn't scale well so you
pay extra for bandwidth. If you have neighbors who also want more
bandwidth at an affordable price and if you have someone who is
technically savvy, you could take matters into your own hands and
install a wireless system. ...
I am surprised that you are not violating the TOS of your provider.
How did you avoid that issue with the bandits? Your community is
perfect for a Wi-Fi system as you have found out. Emily, out in
boonies, is not so lucky.
I'm also surprised more groups, think trailer park residents, don't
use this method. There is an interesting service that provides internet
for about $10 a month for means tested individuals using cell technology.
Don't know about bandwidth/usage issues but are looking into it. This
is a newer version of the outdated "freenet" arraignment that still is
viable in Canada and certain cities (Seattle http://cpsr.org/prevsite/publications/factsheet/scn.htm/).
Our provider(s) sell us access to their system. Essentially they are
wholesalers and we take care of the last mile. I don't know how far out
in the boonies that Emily lives, but the approach is well suited to
sparsely populated areas. All you need is a line-of-sight path. The
radios cost very little.
Line-of-sight paths are a problem in hilly San Francisco.
I have antenna TV and can't get NBC because the radio
waves from the NBC transmitter on San Bruno Mountain
can't bend enough to get over the hill just south of me,
even though radio waves bend more than light waves.
The other channels broadcast from the Sutro Tower on
Twin peaks, which I can see from the right panel of
my front-room bay window.
I don't really miss NBC. It's the least interesting of
the big 3: CBS, ABC, NBC. If I couldn't get PBS, that
would be a problem though. All the best "classy"
stuff is on PBS. We have KQED in San Francisco,
one of the best PBS stations in the country. I
contribute to them every year.
The difference is that TV transmitters need to service a large number of
customers and are very expensive. The radios that we use are small,
inexpensive and only serve a few customers. It would be trivial to
scatter a few around SF to cover the whole city. The problem there
would be the number of competing applications for the bandwidth. We can
get by using unlicensed bands since there is little competition here.
Emily
2018-01-12 18:26:06 UTC
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Our provider(s) sell us access to their system. Essentially they are
wholesalers and we take care of the last mile. I don't know how far out
in the boonies that Emily lives, but the approach is well suited to
sparsely populated areas. All you need is a line-of-sight path. The
radios cost very little.
We're 16 miles from any place large enough to be called a town. Line
of sight isn't very applicable here because it's hilly and there are
zillions of trees. It's been tried and may even still exist in some
nearby areas but it's never gotten this far.
islander
2018-01-13 00:57:23 UTC
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Our provider(s) sell us access to their system. Essentially they are
wholesalers and we take care of the last mile. I don't know how far out
in the boonies that Emily lives, but the approach is well suited to
sparsely populated areas. All you need is a line-of-sight path. The
radios cost very little.
We're 16 miles from any place large enough to be called a town. Line
of sight isn't very applicable here because it's hilly and there are
zillions of trees. It's been tried and may even still exist in some
nearby areas but it's never gotten this far.
Perhaps, but we have a lot of trees here and the terrain is pretty rough
too. If you watched the video, you would see that Chris uses a small
drone to look for line-of-sight paths. There is also a problem of
getting property owner approval to not only put an antenna on his/her
property, but to provide power for it. Fortunately, we have pretty
cooperative neighbors. For example, my connection depends on the good
will of a neighbor who could care less about the Internet, but he does
value his relationship with his neighbors and has allowed a relay to be
placed on his property and he provides power for it.

islander
2018-01-11 22:00:52 UTC
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I just received the magic number via e-mail and the damned thing is
finally working.
That's good news. I run the free version myself, though
only occasionally. It's probably too soon to ask you, but
have you noticed any additional functionality to the paid
version? The free version seems to me to do everything
I would want.
The free version had started acting strangely. It appeared to have
stopped going online for updates which it used to do first thing when
I started it up.
I leave my computer on and just turn off the internet access and close
the lid when I go to bed at night. I turn off the computer every two
to three weeks, start it up again and run Malwarebytes and CCleaner.
The CCleaner always finds a bunch of junk which I delete, but
Malwarebytes has never found anything.
The computer has been running more slowly than ever lately and had
developed an irksome habit of not responding to the arrow keys
sometimes when I'm doing a jigsaw puzzle, which I waste a lot of time
doing except I really don't think of it as wasting time since I'm also
listening to a book at the same time.
Post by rumpelstiltskin
I also have Zone Alarm and Microsoft
Security essentials, both free, monitoring my system.
I run Microsoft Security Essentials and (I think) Zone
Alarm separately sometimes too, and they do discover
some "PUPs" (Potentially Unwanted Programs), but
those have all been advertising junk, not anything
really malicious, so far.
I think I also have those and used to run them but haven't in a long
time. I sort of assumed that the MS program would want me to download
the latest updates which I stopped doing ages ago after I downloaded
them and they screwed up a bunch of stuff. It's been a while so of
course I've forgotten the details.
Post by rumpelstiltskin
The pop-up-blockers available for Firefox don't seem
to be running well at all anymore. Firefox admits that
it can't block all popups, but the situation is much worse
now. Maybe the people who make Popups have gotten
"smarter" about defeating the blockers. On principle,
I always delete an unasked-for popup as soon as it
appears, with only enough of a glance at it to see where
it came from.
I use Chrome and have never tried a popup blocker. I just avoid, as
much as possible, going to any web sites to read the rest of something
intriguing that shows up on Facebook because I know there will be ads
running alongside whatever I'm trying to read. That wouldn't bother
me so much except that I assume it's using up my precious download
quota. Right now we have 4.1 GB left to last until midnight on the
19th. In a couple of days I'll have to make a choice between paying
$10 for one more lousy GB or not being able to watch any videos or
access some sites. I'll probably choose to just let it crawl since I
can still get soc.retirement, FB, jigsaw puzzles and e-mail.
Are you still being metered on downloads?
El Castor
2018-01-11 17:38:16 UTC
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Has anyone bought this program?
I've been running the free version but it didn't seem to be working
the way it used to so I bit the bullet and paid for the damned thing
but I've gotten thoroughly confused somewhere. I've downloaded it
twice and no matter what I do, when I click on the shortcut I get a
window that tells me I'm running the free version.
Predictably, there is no help available online except for one of those
damned "community help" things. Supposedly there's a way to chat with
someone but when I tried that, I got the message that there was no one
available at this time.
If anyone can offer any help with this seriously irritating problem, I
shall be eternally grateful.
Emily, you may be beyond this, but how old is your PC and which
version of Windows are you running -- also are you automatically
updating Windows, and is it up to date?
Emily
2018-01-11 17:52:23 UTC
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Post by Emily
Has anyone bought this program?
I've been running the free version but it didn't seem to be working
the way it used to so I bit the bullet and paid for the damned thing
but I've gotten thoroughly confused somewhere. I've downloaded it
twice and no matter what I do, when I click on the shortcut I get a
window that tells me I'm running the free version.
Predictably, there is no help available online except for one of those
damned "community help" things. Supposedly there's a way to chat with
someone but when I tried that, I got the message that there was no one
available at this time.
If anyone can offer any help with this seriously irritating problem, I
shall be eternally grateful.
Emily, you may be beyond this, but how old is your PC and which
version of Windows are you running -- also are you automatically
updating Windows, and is it up to date?
I did finally figure it out and got it running.

I really don't remember how old this computer is but I'm running
Windows7. I gave up on updates a long time ago when they screwed up
the computer and I don't think you can even get updates for 7 now, can
you?
JackPineSavage
2018-01-11 18:24:48 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:38:16 -0800, El Castor
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Post by Emily
Has anyone bought this program?
I've been running the free version but it didn't seem to be working
the way it used to so I bit the bullet and paid for the damned thing
but I've gotten thoroughly confused somewhere. I've downloaded it
twice and no matter what I do, when I click on the shortcut I get a
window that tells me I'm running the free version.
Predictably, there is no help available online except for one of those
damned "community help" things. Supposedly there's a way to chat with
someone but when I tried that, I got the message that there was no one
available at this time.
If anyone can offer any help with this seriously irritating problem, I
shall be eternally grateful.
Emily, you may be beyond this, but how old is your PC and which
version of Windows are you running -- also are you automatically
updating Windows, and is it up to date?
I did finally figure it out and got it running.
I really don't remember how old this computer is but I'm running
Windows7. I gave up on updates a long time ago when they screwed up
the computer and I don't think you can even get updates for 7 now, can
you?
http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/computing/windows-7/windows-7-support-end-11364081315419
El Castor
2018-01-12 03:46:34 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:38:16 -0800, El Castor
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Post by Emily
Has anyone bought this program?
I've been running the free version but it didn't seem to be working
the way it used to so I bit the bullet and paid for the damned thing
but I've gotten thoroughly confused somewhere. I've downloaded it
twice and no matter what I do, when I click on the shortcut I get a
window that tells me I'm running the free version.
Predictably, there is no help available online except for one of those
damned "community help" things. Supposedly there's a way to chat with
someone but when I tried that, I got the message that there was no one
available at this time.
If anyone can offer any help with this seriously irritating problem, I
shall be eternally grateful.
Emily, you may be beyond this, but how old is your PC and which
version of Windows are you running -- also are you automatically
updating Windows, and is it up to date?
I did finally figure it out and got it running.
I really don't remember how old this computer is but I'm running
Windows7. I gave up on updates a long time ago when they screwed up
the computer and I don't think you can even get updates for 7 now, can
you?
Windows 7 is still supported, and will be for a couple of years.
Running an out of date Windows of any variety is not a good idea,
although it will make some Bulgarian hackers very happy. )-8
b flanier
2018-01-12 07:23:03 UTC
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Just to add a little stuff to this stew, a friend brought in a 'puter
that had been "bricked" (would not boot) by a recent MS "update".
The "update" was supposed to fix an old problem affecting all CPUs.

Seems the CPU was an AMD and the MS update did not fully update thus
causing a nonresponding computer. This particular "update" it seems,
was not selectable, MS just rammed it through to all Windows users
Bad MS-no bone!! btw, this update, I've heard, also causes a slow down
on the affected computer.

On the Malware thingy, on the free version, one had to update the
database daily while the paid version automatically updates each
time the computer is turned on and discovers the out of dateness. I'm
running the latest paid Mal and have had no difficulties.
El Castor
2018-01-12 21:06:06 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:23:03 -0800 (PST), b flanier
Post by b flanier
Just to add a little stuff to this stew, a friend brought in a 'puter
that had been "bricked" (would not boot) by a recent MS "update".
The "update" was supposed to fix an old problem affecting all CPUs.
Seems the CPU was an AMD and the MS update did not fully update thus
causing a nonresponding computer. This particular "update" it seems,
was not selectable, MS just rammed it through to all Windows users
Bad MS-no bone!! btw, this update, I've heard, also causes a slow down
on the affected computer.
That CPU problem is real and affects Intel, ARM, and AMD. The
Microsoft update was a partial fix for one of two problems. Both are
flaws in the CPU architecture and should be fixed in about a year in
new chips. The old ones will always have some issues. I'll probably
upgrade this old beast when the new stuff hits the market.
Post by b flanier
On the Malware thingy, on the free version, one had to update the
database daily while the paid version automatically updates each
time the computer is turned on and discovers the out of dateness. I'm
running the latest paid Mal and have had no difficulties.
I'm a Comcast customer and get Norton for free, but I like
Malwarebytes and run the free version once a week. Like you said, it
has to be updated, but not a big thing.
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