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Ben Carson Day 1.... Not a Surprise !
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j***@hotmail.com
2017-03-07 01:47:32 UTC
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"Ben Carson’s first full week as secretary of Housing and Urban Development got off to a rough start on Monday after he described African slaves as “immigrants” during his first speech to hundreds of assembled department employees. The remark, which came as part of a 40-minute address on the theme of America as “a land of dreams and opportunity,” was met with swift outrage online....

“That’s what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity,’’ he said. “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters, might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/ben-carson-refers-to-slaves-as-immigrants-in-first-remarks-to-hud-staff.html?_r=0
Gary
2017-03-07 15:32:34 UTC
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"Ben Carson’s first full week as secretary of Housing and Urban Development got off to a rough start on Monday after he described African slaves as “immigrants” during his first speech to hundreds of assembled department employees. The remark, which came as part of a 40-minute address on the theme of America as “a land of dreams and opportunity,” was met with swift outrage online....
“That’s what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity,’’ he said. “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters, might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/ben-carson-refers-to-slaves-as-immigrants-in-first-remarks-to-hud-staff.html?_r=0
Why would anybody complain about Carson's use of the word "immigrant". The
slaves in the lower decks may not have come willingly -- but they did come. And
they were much better off once they arrived.

How about the immigrants who first settled Georgia ? Most of them were
prisoners in England who had been brought here to do their time. To begin with
-- Georgia was nothing but a penal colony. But the criminals stayed after
being released -- and became settlers. Somewhat like slaves did.
GLOBALIST
2017-03-07 17:44:31 UTC
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"Ben Carson’s first full week as secretary of Housing and Urban Development got off to a rough start on Monday after he described African slaves as “immigrants” during his first speech to hundreds of assembled department employees. The remark, which came as part of a 40-minute address on the theme of America as “a land of dreams and opportunity,” was met with swift outrage online....
“That’s what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity,’’ he said. “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters, might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/ben-carson-refers-to-slaves-as-immigrants-in-first-remarks-to-hud-staff.html?_r=0
Why would anybody complain about Carson's use of the word "immigrant". The
slaves in the lower decks may not have come willingly -- but they did come. And
they were much better off once they arrived.
How about the immigrants who first settled Georgia ? Most of them were
prisoners in England who had been brought here to do their time. To begin with
-- Georgia was nothing but a penal colony. But the criminals stayed after
being released -- and became settlers. Somewhat like slaves did.
You describe it just how Australia was founded. England emptied its
prisons and shipped them to Australia
You figure alot of that was done even in South America.
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Typically, getting banished to America was for a term of either seven or fourteen years, after which the convict could theoretically come back the Britain. Escaping home early, however, was punishable by death. And it wasn’t just men. Some female convicts were transported to the American colonies as well, for crimes such as being “lewd” and “walk[ing] the streets after ten at night.”

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Spain dumped alot of prisoners on South America
Mainly Jews when they were cleaning house

http://sefarad.org/lm/037/6.html
Lawrence Akutagawa
2017-03-07 18:33:54 UTC
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"Ben Carson’s first full week as secretary of Housing and Urban
Development got off to a rough start on Monday after he described African
slaves as “immigrants” during his first speech to hundreds of assembled
department employees. The remark, which came as part of a 40-minute
address on the theme of America as “a land of dreams and opportunity,”
was met with swift outrage online....
“That’s what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity,’’ he
said. “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave
ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream
that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters,
great-grandsons, great-granddaughters, might pursue prosperity and
happiness in this land.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/ben-carson-refers-to-slaves-as-immigrants-in-first-remarks-to-hud-staff.html?_r=0
Why would anybody complain about Carson's use of the word "immigrant".
The
slaves in the lower decks may not have come willingly -- but they did come. And
they were much better off once they arrived.
How about the immigrants who first settled Georgia ? Most of them were
prisoners in England who had been brought here to do their time. To begin with
-- Georgia was nothing but a penal colony. But the criminals stayed after
being released -- and became settlers. Somewhat like slaves did.
You describe it just how Australia was founded. England emptied its
prisons and shipped them to Australia
You figure alot of that was done even in South America.
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This verifies your post:
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Typically, getting banished to America was for a term of either seven or
fourteen years, after which the convict could theoretically come back the
Britain. Escaping home early, however, was punishable by death. And it wasn’t
just men. Some female convicts were transported to the American colonies as
well, for crimes such as being “lewd” and “walk[ing] the streets after ten
at night.”

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Spain dumped alot of prisoners on South America
Mainly Jews when they were cleaning house

http://sefarad.org/lm/037/6.html

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And of course...of course...the Village Idiot entertains us yet once again
with his absolutely decrepit English!

As you can all read for yourselves, according to these words of the Village
Idiot, those English - long before Robert McCulloch brought the London
Bridge from the England to Arizona - similarly already brought its prisons
to Australia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)

This is the typical - yes, typical - kind of fun and laughs engendered by
the lousy English of the Village Idiot almost each and every day!

Just why, Village Idiot, are you still in this country with this clearly and
indisputably miserable English of yours?

And now - of course - the Village Idiot will again (of course with "mutual
agreement") entertain us further by performing yet another Intellectual
Coward ploy to run away from the issue of his lousy lousy English, of course
with his tail taut between his legs, back into that deep dark despicable
hole of his under his rock!

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