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rumpelstiltskin
2018-04-07 17:46:09 UTC
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I got this scam on my computer, for the second time, yesterday.
It displays a message saying not to turn off your computer before
calling that number, and that if you disregard the message, your
files may be compromised and your computer may soon become
"obsolete" (what a strange choice of a word!).

You can't get the message off the screen without rebooting,
so I did - not reboot, I'm not sure if that would have worked -
but I pulled the plug then plugged it back in and restarted the
computer that way. I'm not sure if that telephone number is
the same one I got the first time this happened, but after
reboot I googled for that number and indeed easily found
messages not to respond to that, because it's a scam.

The strangest thing was that shortly after that, I got a call
with a woman's voice (they always use women because
in our society, women are regarded as more trustworthy,
and they really are except for the women who takes jobs
like that). I don't know how they got my telephone number,
since it's not on my computer anywhere that I know of.

My son's roommate fell for this scam, perhaps not the
same number or quite the same message, not once, but
TWICE! It cost him, if I recall aright $700 the first time and
$300 the second. How come the government isn't going
after crooks like that? I ran a computer disk check
overnight just to make sure my computer was OK, and it
is.
wolfbat359
2018-04-07 17:51:16 UTC
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Post by rumpelstiltskin
I got this scam on my computer, for the second time, yesterday.
It displays a message saying not to turn off your computer before
calling that number, and that if you disregard the message, your
files may be compromised and your computer may soon become
"obsolete" (what a strange choice of a word!).
You can't get the message off the screen without rebooting,
so I did - not reboot, I'm not sure if that would have worked -
but I pulled the plug then plugged it back in and restarted the
computer that way. I'm not sure if that telephone number is
the same one I got the first time this happened, but after
reboot I googled for that number and indeed easily found
messages not to respond to that, because it's a scam.
The strangest thing was that shortly after that, I got a call
with a woman's voice (they always use women because
in our society, women are regarded as more trustworthy,
and they really are except for the women who takes jobs
like that). I don't know how they got my telephone number,
since it's not on my computer anywhere that I know of.
My son's roommate fell for this scam, perhaps not the
same number or quite the same message, not once, but
TWICE! It cost him, if I recall aright $700 the first time and
$300 the second. How come the government isn't going
after crooks like that? I ran a computer disk check
overnight just to make sure my computer was OK, and it
is.
I get a woman calling about my computer being attacked about 3 times a month! Never listened to any message long enough to see what they want! I suppose it is to send them money!
islander
2018-04-07 18:15:10 UTC
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I got this scam on my computer, for the second time, yesterday.
It displays a message saying not to turn off your computer before
calling that number, and that if you disregard the message, your
files may be compromised and your computer may soon become
"obsolete" (what a strange choice of a word!).
You can't get the message off the screen without rebooting,
so I did - not reboot, I'm not sure if that would have worked -
but I pulled the plug then plugged it back in and restarted the
computer that way. I'm not sure if that telephone number is
the same one I got the first time this happened, but after
reboot I googled for that number and indeed easily found
messages not to respond to that, because it's a scam.
The strangest thing was that shortly after that, I got a call
with a woman's voice (they always use women because
in our society, women are regarded as more trustworthy,
and they really are except for the women who takes jobs
like that). I don't know how they got my telephone number,
since it's not on my computer anywhere that I know of.
My son's roommate fell for this scam, perhaps not the
same number or quite the same message, not once, but
TWICE! It cost him, if I recall aright $700 the first time and
$300 the second. How come the government isn't going
after crooks like that? I ran a computer disk check
overnight just to make sure my computer was OK, and it
is.
I get a woman calling about my computer being attacked about 3 times a month! Never listened to any message long enough to see what they want! I suppose it is to send them money!
We get those calls all the time too. They often pretend to be calling
from Microsoft or Windows. I suspect that what they want to do is get
remote access to your computer (and charge you for the privilege).
Sometimes I try to have a little fun with them. "Oh no, is something
wrong with my computer? What do I need to do?" or "I didn't realize
that my Apple computer used Windows." or sometimes I just get angry and
tell them to "Get an honest job!"

I would think that Microsoft would be working very hard to shut them
down, but I imagine they are hard to find and prosecute since most of
the time they have foreign accents. With VOIP, they could be calling
for free from anywhere in the world.
El Castor
2018-04-08 18:50:54 UTC
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I got this scam on my computer, for the second time, yesterday.
It displays a message saying not to turn off your computer before
calling that number, and that if you disregard the message, your
files may be compromised and your computer may soon become
"obsolete" (what a strange choice of a word!).
You can't get the message off the screen without rebooting,
so I did - not reboot, I'm not sure if that would have worked -
but I pulled the plug then plugged it back in and restarted the
computer that way. I'm not sure if that telephone number is
the same one I got the first time this happened, but after
reboot I googled for that number and indeed easily found
messages not to respond to that, because it's a scam.
The strangest thing was that shortly after that, I got a call
with a woman's voice (they always use women because
in our society, women are regarded as more trustworthy,
and they really are except for the women who takes jobs
like that). I don't know how they got my telephone number,
since it's not on my computer anywhere that I know of.
My son's roommate fell for this scam, perhaps not the
same number or quite the same message, not once, but
TWICE! It cost him, if I recall aright $700 the first time and
$300 the second. How come the government isn't going
after crooks like that? I ran a computer disk check
overnight just to make sure my computer was OK, and it
is.
I get a woman calling about my computer being attacked about 3 times a month! Never listened to any message long enough to see what they want! I suppose it is to send them money!
We get those calls all the time too. They often pretend to be calling
from Microsoft or Windows. I suspect that what they want to do is get
remote access to your computer (and charge you for the privilege).
Sometimes I try to have a little fun with them. "Oh no, is something
wrong with my computer? What do I need to do?" or "I didn't realize
that my Apple computer used Windows." or sometimes I just get angry and
tell them to "Get an honest job!"
I would think that Microsoft would be working very hard to shut them
down, but I imagine they are hard to find and prosecute since most of
the time they have foreign accents. With VOIP, they could be calling
for free from anywhere in the world.
Another form of Robo call. If you are using a VOIP land line, consider
signing up with NOMOROBO, and they will filter 95% of the crap. VOIP
land lines are free. Mobile, $1.99 a month.
https://www.nomorobo.com/

rumpelstiltskin
2018-04-08 06:10:49 UTC
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I get a woman calling about my computer being attacked about 3 times a month! Never listened to any message long enough to see what they want! I suppose it is to send them money!
Mine went to answering machine, so I could hear it from there.
I am wondering how they knew my phone number, though,
f***@gmail.com
2018-04-08 01:18:11 UTC
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I got this scam on my computer, for the second time, yesterday.
It displays a message saying not to turn off your computer before
calling that number, and that if you disregard the message, your
files may be compromised and your computer may soon become
"obsolete" (what a strange choice of a word!).
You can't get the message off the screen without rebooting,
so I did - not reboot, I'm not sure if that would have worked -
but I pulled the plug then plugged it back in and restarted the
computer that way. I'm not sure if that telephone number is
the same one I got the first time this happened, but after
reboot I googled for that number and indeed easily found
messages not to respond to that, because it's a scam.
The strangest thing was that shortly after that, I got a call
with a woman's voice (they always use women because
in our society, women are regarded as more trustworthy,
and they really are except for the women who takes jobs
like that). I don't know how they got my telephone number,
since it's not on my computer anywhere that I know of.
My son's roommate fell for this scam, perhaps not the
same number or quite the same message, not once, but
TWICE! It cost him, if I recall aright $700 the first time and
$300 the second. How come the government isn't going
after crooks like that? I ran a computer disk check
overnight just to make sure my computer was OK, and it
is.
For spam/scam telephone calls on a landline.

use a hand held recorder with the fax machine sound prerecorded. If it looks like a telemarketer I answer the phone and hit the play button as I pick up.

Their computer will recognize it as a number not associated with a human answering. It rejects / deletes the number from the repetitive calling sequence. Simply put, it hears the fax machine sound and goes....pffft, bum number.

This is the most recent one I use:



Before I delete the number I jot it down and check for callbacks after the faux fax caper. The numbers that get fax'd have not made any return calls.

Been doing this for about 6mos the number of trash calls has been reduced from two a day to two a week.


FoX
rumpelstiltskin
2018-04-08 06:10:49 UTC
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I got this scam on my computer, for the second time, yesterday.
It displays a message saying not to turn off your computer before
calling that number, and that if you disregard the message, your
files may be compromised and your computer may soon become
"obsolete" (what a strange choice of a word!).
You can't get the message off the screen without rebooting,
so I did - not reboot, I'm not sure if that would have worked -
but I pulled the plug then plugged it back in and restarted the
computer that way. I'm not sure if that telephone number is
the same one I got the first time this happened, but after
reboot I googled for that number and indeed easily found
messages not to respond to that, because it's a scam.
The strangest thing was that shortly after that, I got a call
with a woman's voice (they always use women because
in our society, women are regarded as more trustworthy,
and they really are except for the women who takes jobs
like that). I don't know how they got my telephone number,
since it's not on my computer anywhere that I know of.
My son's roommate fell for this scam, perhaps not the
same number or quite the same message, not once, but
TWICE! It cost him, if I recall aright $700 the first time and
$300 the second. How come the government isn't going
after crooks like that? I ran a computer disk check
overnight just to make sure my computer was OK, and it
is.
For spam/scam telephone calls on a landline.
use a hand held recorder with the fax machine sound prerecorded. If it looks like a telemarketer I answer the phone and hit the play button as I pick up.
Their computer will recognize it as a number not associated with a human answering. It rejects / deletes the number from the repetitive calling sequence. Simply put, it hears the fax machine sound and goes....pffft, bum number.
http://youtu.be/NnR03_10ai4
Before I delete the number I jot it down and check for callbacks after the faux fax caper. The numbers that get fax'd have not made any return calls.
Been doing this for about 6mos the number of trash calls has been reduced from two a day to two a week.
FoX
I don't have a fancy phone, so that probably wouldn't work for me.
Also I don't want to keep jotting down and then checking numbers.
I also don't have FAX, or at least I don't think I do - I've never
looked into it and never wanted to. A lot of telemarketers hang up
as soon as the recorded message from "Marilyn" tells them that I
can't come to the phone because she's incapacitated me for the
moment due to sexual exhaustion.

I think I did a pretty good Marylin Monroe voice, or at least a
very sexy woman's voice. I took my model from Marylin Monroe's
"Happy Birthday" song to John F. Kennedy.
mg
2018-04-08 02:49:05 UTC
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Post by rumpelstiltskin
I got this scam on my computer, for the second time, yesterday.
It displays a message saying not to turn off your computer before
calling that number, and that if you disregard the message, your
files may be compromised and your computer may soon become
"obsolete" (what a strange choice of a word!).
You can't get the message off the screen without rebooting,
so I did - not reboot, I'm not sure if that would have worked -
but I pulled the plug then plugged it back in and restarted the
computer that way. I'm not sure if that telephone number is
the same one I got the first time this happened, but after
reboot I googled for that number and indeed easily found
messages not to respond to that, because it's a scam.
The strangest thing was that shortly after that, I got a call
with a woman's voice (they always use women because
in our society, women are regarded as more trustworthy,
and they really are except for the women who takes jobs
like that). I don't know how they got my telephone number,
since it's not on my computer anywhere that I know of.
My son's roommate fell for this scam, perhaps not the
same number or quite the same message, not once, but
TWICE! It cost him, if I recall aright $700 the first time and
$300 the second. How come the government isn't going
after crooks like that? I ran a computer disk check
overnight just to make sure my computer was OK, and it
is.
I used to get those all the time, but I think it's been at least 6
months since I got the last one. I have my computer backed up so even
in the worst case scenario where they destroyed everything, or locked
me out of my files, I would be OK. In about 99.9% of the time, though,
I would guess that they're bluffing.

I sold a motorcycle a couple of years ago, though, and I got a strange
call from somebody from Arizona (or was it Texas?). The guy had a
really complicated yarn about how he was going to pay me twice what I
was asking and all I had to do was ship it to him in advance.

I played a long and kept him interested for about a week, or so, while
I called and sent email to every possible government agency I could
find to report the fraudulent scheme to and couldn't find anyone who
was interested.

Isn't funny how the government can spend about $5 trillion to bomb a
country back to the stone age for no good reason, but they don't have
any time to help citizens avoid being swindled.
rumpelstiltskin
2018-04-08 06:10:49 UTC
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My son's roommate fell for this scam, perhaps not the
same number or quite the same message, not once, but
TWICE! It cost him, if I recall aright $700 the first time and
$300 the second. How come the government isn't going
after crooks like that? I ran a computer disk check
overnight just to make sure my computer was OK, and it
is.
I used to get those all the time, but I think it's been at least 6
months since I got the last one. I have my computer backed up so even
in the worst case scenario where they destroyed everything, or locked
me out of my files, I would be OK. In about 99.9% of the time, though,
I would guess that they're bluffing.
I sold a motorcycle a couple of years ago, though, and I got a strange
call from somebody from Arizona (or was it Texas?). The guy had a
really complicated yarn about how he was going to pay me twice what I
was asking and all I had to do was ship it to him in advance.
I played a long and kept him interested for about a week, or so, while
I called and sent email to every possible government agency I could
find to report the fraudulent scheme to and couldn't find anyone who
was interested.
Isn't funny how the government can spend about $5 trillion to bomb a
country back to the stone age for no good reason, but they don't have
any time to help citizens avoid being swindled.
I keep everything backed up too, and I refreshed the backup right
after I rebooted to bet rid of the Spam message and found that the
computer was still working just fine. You never know, someday one
of these Breviks may come up with something that actually can
bypass all one's protections.
mg
2018-04-08 14:40:34 UTC
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My son's roommate fell for this scam, perhaps not the
same number or quite the same message, not once, but
TWICE! It cost him, if I recall aright $700 the first time and
$300 the second. How come the government isn't going
after crooks like that? I ran a computer disk check
overnight just to make sure my computer was OK, and it
is.
I used to get those all the time, but I think it's been at least 6
months since I got the last one. I have my computer backed up so even
in the worst case scenario where they destroyed everything, or locked
me out of my files, I would be OK. In about 99.9% of the time, though,
I would guess that they're bluffing.
I sold a motorcycle a couple of years ago, though, and I got a strange
call from somebody from Arizona (or was it Texas?). The guy had a
really complicated yarn about how he was going to pay me twice what I
was asking and all I had to do was ship it to him in advance.
I played a long and kept him interested for about a week, or so, while
I called and sent email to every possible government agency I could
find to report the fraudulent scheme to and couldn't find anyone who
was interested.
Isn't funny how the government can spend about $5 trillion to bomb a
country back to the stone age for no good reason, but they don't have
any time to help citizens avoid being swindled.
I keep everything backed up too, and I refreshed the backup right
after I rebooted to bet rid of the Spam message and found that the
computer was still working just fine. You never know, someday one
of these Breviks may come up with something that actually can
bypass all one's protections.
According to a show I watched a couple of years ago, it really does
happen and people really do pay to get their stuff back. However, I
don't know how it happens. I suspect it happens when people don't have
any virus protection at all.
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