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The Biblical Creation Story Was Pre-Dated By Others, Proving Christianity To Be A Fraud
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Dave Merrick
2017-03-08 04:00:51 UTC
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Christianity is a Fraud.

In the beginning there was only Chaos. Then out of the void
appeared Erebus, the unknowable place where death dwells, and
Night. All else was empty, silent, endless, dark. Then, Love
was born bringing along the beginning of order. From Love
emerged Light, followed by Gaea, the earth.

Erebus slept with Night, eventually giving birth to Ether, the
heavenly light, and to Day, the earthly light. Then, Night
alone created Doom, Fate, Death, Sleep, Dreams, Nemesis, and
all things that dwell in the darkness haunting mankind.

Meanwhile, Gaea alone gave birth to Uranus, the sky. Uranus
became Gaea's husband, surrounding her on all sides. Together,
they produced the three Cyclopes, the three Hecatoncheires, and
twelve Titans.

However, Uranus was a cruel father and husband. He hated the
Hecatoncheires and imprisoned them by pushing them into the
hidden places of the earth, Gaea's womb. This angered Gaea and
she plotted against Uranus. She made a flint sickle and tried
to get her children to attack Uranus. All were too afraid,
except the youngest Titan, Cronus.

Gaea and Cronus set up an ambush of Uranus as he lay with Gaea
at night. Cronus grabbed his father and castrated him with the
sickle, throwing the severed genitals into the ocean. It is
unclear as to what happened to Uranus afterwards; he either
died, withdrew from the earth, or exiled himself to Italy. As
he departed, he promised that Cronus and the Titans would be
punished. From the blood that was spilled on the earth due to
his castration, emerged the Giants, the Ash Tree Nymphs, and
the Erinnyes. From the sea foam that was produced when his
genitals fell in the ocean, emerged Aphrodite.

Cronus became the next ruler. He imprisoned the Cyclopes and
the Hecatoncheires in Tartarus. He married his sister Rhea, and
had many children. He ruled for many ages; however, Gaea and
Uranus both had prophesied that Cronus would be eventually
overthrown by a son. To avoid this, Cronus swallowed all of his
children as they were born. Rhea was angry at the treatment of
the children and plotted against Cronus. When it was time to
give birth to her sixth child, Rhea hid herself, then she left
the child to be raised by nymphs. To conceal her act she
wrapped a stone in swaddling cloths and passed it off as the
baby to Cronus, who swallowed it.

This child was Zeus. He grew into a handsome youth at the
island of Crete. He consulted Metis on how to defeat Cronus.
She prepared a drink for Cronus designed to make him vomit the
other children. Rhea convinced Cronus to accept his son and
Zeus was allowed to return to Mount Othrys (the base of the
Titans) as Cronus's cupbearer, giving him the opportunity to
serve Metis' potion to Cronus. The plan work perfectly and the
other five children emerged out of Cronus. As gods, they were
unharmed and thankful to their youngest brother, they made him
their leader.

Cronus was yet to be defeated though. He and the Titans, except
Prometheus, Epimetheus, and Oceanus, fought to retain their
power; this led to the War between the Titans and the Olympians
called Titanomachy. Atlas became their leader in battle and it
looked for some time as though they would win and put the young
gods down. However, Zeus was cunning; he went to Tartarus and
freed the Cyclopes and the Hecatoncheires. Prometheus joined
Zeus as well. He returned to battle with his new allies; the
Cyclopes provided Zeus with lightning bolts for weapons; the
Hecatoncheires were armed with boulders, waiting in an ambush.
At the right time, Zeus retreated drawing the Titans into the
Hecatoncheires's ambush, who rained down hundreds of boulders
with such a fury that the Titans thought the mountains were
falling on them. They ran away, leaving Zeus victorious.

Zeus exiled the Titans who had fought against him into
Tartarus, with the exception of Atlas, who being the leader of
the opposing force, was punished to hold the universe on his
shoulders.

However, even after this victory, Zeus was not safe. Gaea,
angry that her children had been imprisoned, gave birth to her
last child, Typhon. Typhon was the deadliest monster in Greek
mythology and was known as the "Father of All Monsters". He was
so fearsome that most of the gods fled; however, Zeus faced the
monster and flinging his lighting bolts was able to kill it.
Typhon was buried under Mount Etna in Sicily.

Much later, Zeus faced a final challenge set by the Giants.
They went so far as to attempt to invade Mount Olympus, piling
mountain upon mountain in an effort to reach the top.
Nevertheless, the gods had already grown strong, and with the
help of Heracles, the Giants were subdued and killed.
Christopher A. Lee
2017-03-08 08:03:35 UTC
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 04:00:51 +0000 (UTC), Dave Merrick
Post by Dave Merrick
Christianity is a Fraud.
In the beginning there was only Chaos. Then out of the void
appeared Erebus, the unknowable place where death dwells, and
Night. All else was empty, silent, endless, dark. Then, Love
was born bringing along the beginning of order. From Love
emerged Light, followed by Gaea, the earth.
Erebus slept with Night, eventually giving birth to Ether, the
heavenly light, and to Day, the earthly light. Then, Night
alone created Doom, Fate, Death, Sleep, Dreams, Nemesis, and
all things that dwell in the darkness haunting mankind.
Meanwhile, Gaea alone gave birth to Uranus, the sky. Uranus
became Gaea's husband, surrounding her on all sides. Together,
they produced the three Cyclopes, the three Hecatoncheires, and
twelve Titans.
However, Uranus was a cruel father and husband. He hated the
Hecatoncheires and imprisoned them by pushing them into the
hidden places of the earth, Gaea's womb. This angered Gaea and
she plotted against Uranus. She made a flint sickle and tried
to get her children to attack Uranus. All were too afraid,
except the youngest Titan, Cronus.
Gaea and Cronus set up an ambush of Uranus as he lay with Gaea
at night. Cronus grabbed his father and castrated him with the
sickle, throwing the severed genitals into the ocean. It is
unclear as to what happened to Uranus afterwards; he either
died, withdrew from the earth, or exiled himself to Italy. As
he departed, he promised that Cronus and the Titans would be
punished. From the blood that was spilled on the earth due to
his castration, emerged the Giants, the Ash Tree Nymphs, and
the Erinnyes. From the sea foam that was produced when his
genitals fell in the ocean, emerged Aphrodite.
Cronus became the next ruler. He imprisoned the Cyclopes and
the Hecatoncheires in Tartarus. He married his sister Rhea, and
had many children. He ruled for many ages; however, Gaea and
Uranus both had prophesied that Cronus would be eventually
overthrown by a son. To avoid this, Cronus swallowed all of his
children as they were born. Rhea was angry at the treatment of
the children and plotted against Cronus. When it was time to
give birth to her sixth child, Rhea hid herself, then she left
the child to be raised by nymphs. To conceal her act she
wrapped a stone in swaddling cloths and passed it off as the
baby to Cronus, who swallowed it.
This child was Zeus. He grew into a handsome youth at the
island of Crete. He consulted Metis on how to defeat Cronus.
She prepared a drink for Cronus designed to make him vomit the
other children. Rhea convinced Cronus to accept his son and
Zeus was allowed to return to Mount Othrys (the base of the
Titans) as Cronus's cupbearer, giving him the opportunity to
serve Metis' potion to Cronus. The plan work perfectly and the
other five children emerged out of Cronus. As gods, they were
unharmed and thankful to their youngest brother, they made him
their leader.
Cronus was yet to be defeated though. He and the Titans, except
Prometheus, Epimetheus, and Oceanus, fought to retain their
power; this led to the War between the Titans and the Olympians
called Titanomachy. Atlas became their leader in battle and it
looked for some time as though they would win and put the young
gods down. However, Zeus was cunning; he went to Tartarus and
freed the Cyclopes and the Hecatoncheires. Prometheus joined
Zeus as well. He returned to battle with his new allies; the
Cyclopes provided Zeus with lightning bolts for weapons; the
Hecatoncheires were armed with boulders, waiting in an ambush.
At the right time, Zeus retreated drawing the Titans into the
Hecatoncheires's ambush, who rained down hundreds of boulders
with such a fury that the Titans thought the mountains were
falling on them. They ran away, leaving Zeus victorious.
Zeus exiled the Titans who had fought against him into
Tartarus, with the exception of Atlas, who being the leader of
the opposing force, was punished to hold the universe on his
shoulders.
However, even after this victory, Zeus was not safe. Gaea,
angry that her children had been imprisoned, gave birth to her
last child, Typhon. Typhon was the deadliest monster in Greek
mythology and was known as the "Father of All Monsters". He was
so fearsome that most of the gods fled; however, Zeus faced the
monster and flinging his lighting bolts was able to kill it.
Typhon was buried under Mount Etna in Sicily.
Much later, Zeus faced a final challenge set by the Giants.
They went so far as to attempt to invade Mount Olympus, piling
mountain upon mountain in an effort to reach the top.
Nevertheless, the gods had already grown strong, and with the
help of Heracles, the Giants were subdued and killed.
Stick it up Uranus, troll.
GLOBALIST
2017-03-08 13:46:11 UTC
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Post by Dave Merrick
Christianity is a Fraud.
In the beginning there was only Chaos. Then out of the void
appeared Erebus, the unknowable place where death dwells, and
Night. All else was empty, silent, endless, dark. Then, Love
was born bringing along the beginning of order. From Love
emerged Light, followed by Gaea, the earth.
Erebus slept with Night, eventually giving birth to Ether, the
heavenly light, and to Day, the earthly light. Then, Night
alone created Doom, Fate, Death, Sleep, Dreams, Nemesis, and
all things that dwell in the darkness haunting mankind.
Meanwhile, Gaea alone gave birth to Uranus, the sky. Uranus
became Gaea's husband, surrounding her on all sides. Together,
they produced the three Cyclopes, the three Hecatoncheires, and
twelve Titans.
However, Uranus was a cruel father and husband. He hated the
Hecatoncheires and imprisoned them by pushing them into the
hidden places of the earth, Gaea's womb. This angered Gaea and
she plotted against Uranus. She made a flint sickle and tried
to get her children to attack Uranus. All were too afraid,
except the youngest Titan, Cronus.
Gaea and Cronus set up an ambush of Uranus as he lay with Gaea
at night. Cronus grabbed his father and castrated him with the
sickle, throwing the severed genitals into the ocean. It is
unclear as to what happened to Uranus afterwards; he either
died, withdrew from the earth, or exiled himself to Italy. As
he departed, he promised that Cronus and the Titans would be
punished. From the blood that was spilled on the earth due to
his castration, emerged the Giants, the Ash Tree Nymphs, and
the Erinnyes. From the sea foam that was produced when his
genitals fell in the ocean, emerged Aphrodite.
Cronus became the next ruler. He imprisoned the Cyclopes and
the Hecatoncheires in Tartarus. He married his sister Rhea, and
had many children. He ruled for many ages; however, Gaea and
Uranus both had prophesied that Cronus would be eventually
overthrown by a son. To avoid this, Cronus swallowed all of his
children as they were born. Rhea was angry at the treatment of
the children and plotted against Cronus. When it was time to
give birth to her sixth child, Rhea hid herself, then she left
the child to be raised by nymphs. To conceal her act she
wrapped a stone in swaddling cloths and passed it off as the
baby to Cronus, who swallowed it.
This child was Zeus. He grew into a handsome youth at the
island of Crete. He consulted Metis on how to defeat Cronus.
She prepared a drink for Cronus designed to make him vomit the
other children. Rhea convinced Cronus to accept his son and
Zeus was allowed to return to Mount Othrys (the base of the
Titans) as Cronus's cupbearer, giving him the opportunity to
serve Metis' potion to Cronus. The plan work perfectly and the
other five children emerged out of Cronus. As gods, they were
unharmed and thankful to their youngest brother, they made him
their leader.
Cronus was yet to be defeated though. He and the Titans, except
Prometheus, Epimetheus, and Oceanus, fought to retain their
power; this led to the War between the Titans and the Olympians
called Titanomachy. Atlas became their leader in battle and it
looked for some time as though they would win and put the young
gods down. However, Zeus was cunning; he went to Tartarus and
freed the Cyclopes and the Hecatoncheires. Prometheus joined
Zeus as well. He returned to battle with his new allies; the
Cyclopes provided Zeus with lightning bolts for weapons; the
Hecatoncheires were armed with boulders, waiting in an ambush.
At the right time, Zeus retreated drawing the Titans into the
Hecatoncheires's ambush, who rained down hundreds of boulders
with such a fury that the Titans thought the mountains were
falling on them. They ran away, leaving Zeus victorious.
Zeus exiled the Titans who had fought against him into
Tartarus, with the exception of Atlas, who being the leader of
the opposing force, was punished to hold the universe on his
shoulders.
However, even after this victory, Zeus was not safe. Gaea,
angry that her children had been imprisoned, gave birth to her
last child, Typhon. Typhon was the deadliest monster in Greek
mythology and was known as the "Father of All Monsters". He was
so fearsome that most of the gods fled; however, Zeus faced the
monster and flinging his lighting bolts was able to kill it.
Typhon was buried under Mount Etna in Sicily.
Much later, Zeus faced a final challenge set by the Giants.
They went so far as to attempt to invade Mount Olympus, piling
mountain upon mountain in an effort to reach the top.
Nevertheless, the gods had already grown strong, and with the
help of Heracles, the Giants were subdued and killed.
You need to watch all the PBS videos by Joseph Campbell
Yes every culture had creation stories.
Myths are the ONLY way to convey metaphorical concepts.
The Bible is not a science text book.
Z
2017-03-08 13:55:17 UTC
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The Bible is not a science text book.
You're right. It's a book full of lies, murders and incest. It has saved
no one and has been the cause for millions of deaths and putting
millions into poverty. Course, you being a low IQ high school drop out
who revels in his own bigotry and racism, if the Bible said it,
you fucking believe it.
Gary
2017-03-08 15:40:21 UTC
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The Bible is not a science text book.
You're right. It's a book full of lies, murders and incest. It has saved
no one and has been the cause for millions of deaths and putting
millions into poverty. Course, you being a low IQ high school drop out
who revels in his own bigotry and racism, if the Bible said it,
you fucking believe it.
There is truth to what you say. At least as regards the Old
Testament. But please remember the Old Book is a Jewish history.

I would suggest that it was Christianity that brought about the
civilization of Europe and gave us what we now think of as Western
Civilization. Three books were involved. The Old Book, the New
Jesus and the Greek Philosophy.

Without it -- Europe today would be as "diverse" as the tribes of
Africa. And as backward. When Rome adopted Christianity -- they
gave it to the rest of Europe -- and it created the modern world.

The only way people can become civilized is to share an opinion.
Otherwise -- they wander like the animals.
Z
2017-03-08 15:47:36 UTC
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The Bible is not a science text book.
You're right. It's a book full of lies, murders and incest. It has
saved no one and has been the cause for millions of deaths and
putting millions into poverty. Course, you being a low IQ high
school drop out who revels in his own bigotry and racism, if the
Bible said it, you fucking believe it.
There is truth to what you say. At least as regards the Old
Testament. But please remember the Old Book is a Jewish history.
I would suggest that it was Christianity that brought about the
civilization of Europe and gave us what we now think of as Western
Civilization. Three books were involved. The Old Book, the New
Jesus and the Greek Philosophy.
Without it -- Europe today would be as "diverse" as the tribes of
Africa. And as backward. When Rome adopted Christianity -- they
gave it to the rest of Europe -- and it created the modern world.
The only way people can become civilized is to share an opinion.
Otherwise -- they wander like the animals.
More like civilization was created DESPITE Christianity, not because of it.
El Castor
2017-03-08 17:06:47 UTC
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The Bible is not a science text book.
You're right. It's a book full of lies, murders and incest. It has saved
no one and has been the cause for millions of deaths and putting
millions into poverty. Course, you being a low IQ high school drop out
who revels in his own bigotry and racism, if the Bible said it,
you fucking believe it.
There is truth to what you say. At least as regards the Old
Testament. But please remember the Old Book is a Jewish history.
I would suggest that it was Christianity that brought about the
civilization of Europe and gave us what we now think of as Western
Civilization. Three books were involved. The Old Book, the New
Jesus and the Greek Philosophy.
Without it -- Europe today would be as "diverse" as the tribes of
Africa. And as backward. When Rome adopted Christianity -- they
gave it to the rest of Europe -- and it created the modern world.
The only way people can become civilized is to share an opinion.
Otherwise -- they wander like the animals.
Gary, I didn't know you were so religious, but there is a lot of truth
in what you say. (-8
Gary
2017-03-08 19:22:56 UTC
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 09:06:47 -0800, El Castor
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Post by Gary
There is truth to what you say. At least as regards the Old
Testament. But please remember the Old Book is a Jewish history.
I would suggest that it was Christianity that brought about the
civilization of Europe and gave us what we now think of as Western
Civilization. Three books were involved. The Old Book, the New
Jesus and the Greek Philosophy.
Without it -- Europe today would be as "diverse" as the tribes of
Africa. And as backward. When Rome adopted Christianity -- they
gave it to the rest of Europe -- and it created the modern world.
The only way people can become civilized is to share an opinion.
Otherwise -- they wander like the animals.
Gary, I didn't know you were so religious, but there is a lot of truth
in what you say. (-8
To be honest, I am not very religious. But ... I respect religion
and people who accept it. I do love history. Have loved it
since I was a teenager. And in those 60 years, I've read a lot of
history books.

I hate to ramble and be boring, but let me put forth a theory I've
never discussed with anybody in real life -- and only once on the
internet. In all the history books I've read, I came across a
small gem only a few years ago. It was in a book written by an
English historian in the late 1800s.

In only a few words, he pointed out a problem the Romans were having
circa 50 to 100 AD. They controlled most of the countries in
Europe and those on the Mediterranean. Governing this mass of
humanity was quite a job. One reason was because they all
worshipped different gods. And many gods. If they all had the
same religion, they would be easier to govern. But at that time,
the only religion that recognized only one god was -- Judaism. And
not many of the non-Jews would accept some of the strict rules of
Judaism. Such as the food laws (no pork) and circumcision.

Then ... along came Paul. The Romans loved his religion. It was
just like Judaism, but with less stringent rules. And the promise
of salvation gave it added appeal.

In the next 300 years, Rome promoted the spreading the gospel all
over Europe and Christianized the entire continent. Even when the
Empire crumbled -- Europe stayed strong. United under Christianity.
The Romans were smart enough to incorporate the religion with the
culture given them by Greece. And that is why right now -- we have
Western Civilization that has controlled most of this Earth for
hundreds of years.

So -- though I've never heard anybody say it -- Western Civ is
Christian. And Christianity is Western Civ. Too bad this fact
is not taught in churches. Maybe the inner-city folks would respect
this country and its rules more. And America could go back to being
a melting pot.

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