On 9/10/2018 3:11 PM, El Castor wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:58:39 -0700 (PDT), me <***@gmail.com>
>> Well, most businesses are libertarian. They operate voluntarily. Where would we all be without them? How many socialist businesses do you know? Most social interactions are libertarian. Most people can perform their functions without being surveilled and policed by government agents. It’s my guess most people prefer liberty to obedience. Are you different?
>> Of course it is also the case that people (maybe most or all people) have no problem imposing rules on other people. The Yin and Yang of human nature.
>> Check out:
>> If this is correct:
>> And Margaret Thatcher was correct: “the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” Then what do you expect will rebuild capital? Centralized control or individual liberty?
> I'm no fan of socialism. I think you should know that by now. Now, are
> you going to answer my question? Can you give us an example of a
> successful libertarian economy?
Of course there is no successful libertarian economy, but that doesn't
keep them from trying. A lot of the libertarian beliefs come out of the
John Birch Society - in fact, Fred Koch, father of the Koch brothers was
a founding member of the John Birch Society. Some apples don't fall far
from the tree.
The Cato Institute is Libertarian and I discovered an interesting piece
of work done by a couple of their "researchers." Ruger & Sorens
produced a tome entitled *Freedom in the 50 States* which is essentially
a way of measuring adherence to Libertarian principles. The weights
that they use are interesting. For all the publicity about personal
freedom, their major emphasis is on fiscal policy (29.7%) and regulatory
policy (38.7%). This leaves only 29.4% for personal freedom. Not
surprisingly, there is a strong correlation between their scores on
fiscal and regulatory policy and conservative states. It is the
opposite for personal freedom with liberal states scoring higher. They
must have something against New York because it is way off scale on
their ranking for overall freedom.
I wonder how much of the noise coming from the far right is frustrated
Libertarians. It is certainly a big factor in use of public land.