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20,000 scientists give dire warning
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mg
2018-03-13 15:04:00 UTC
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"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening

Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago

A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.

The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.

The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.

Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.

If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.

Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html




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"Smart growth' destroys the environment. 'Dumb growth'
destroys the environment. The only difference is that
'smart growth' does it with good taste. It's like
booking passage on the Titanic. Whether you go
first-class or steerage, the result is the same."
--Dr. Albert A. Bartlett, Emeritus Professor of Physics,
University of Colorado; World Population Balance Board
of Advisors
GLOBALIST
2018-03-13 15:10:10 UTC
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Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.
Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.
If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.
Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html
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"Smart growth' destroys the environment. 'Dumb growth'
destroys the environment. The only difference is that
'smart growth' does it with good taste. It's like
booking passage on the Titanic. Whether you go
first-class or steerage, the result is the same."
--Dr. Albert A. Bartlett, Emeritus Professor of Physics,
University of Colorado; World Population Balance Board
of Advisors
I hope this won't spoil my week end?
mg
2018-03-13 16:40:33 UTC
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), GLOBALIST
Post by GLOBALIST
Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.
Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.
If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.
Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html
-------------------------------------------------------
"Smart growth' destroys the environment. 'Dumb growth'
destroys the environment. The only difference is that
'smart growth' does it with good taste. It's like
booking passage on the Titanic. Whether you go
first-class or steerage, the result is the same."
--Dr. Albert A. Bartlett, Emeritus Professor of Physics,
University of Colorado; World Population Balance Board
of Advisors
I hope this won't spoil my week end?
We're the lucky generation; it's a good life for us, in fact, speaking
for myself, it's been and is a terrific life. I think we retirees
might be the luckiest and most prosperous generation in American
history and we won't be around to see the consequences of our actions.
b***@gmail.com
2018-03-14 03:20:54 UTC
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Post by mg
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), GLOBALIST
Post by GLOBALIST
Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.
Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.
If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.
Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html
-------------------------------------------------------
"Smart growth' destroys the environment. 'Dumb growth'
destroys the environment. The only difference is that
'smart growth' does it with good taste. It's like
booking passage on the Titanic. Whether you go
first-class or steerage, the result is the same."
--Dr. Albert A. Bartlett, Emeritus Professor of Physics,
University of Colorado; World Population Balance Board
of Advisors
I hope this won't spoil my week end?
We're the lucky generation; it's a good life for us, in fact, speaking
for myself, it's been and is a terrific life. I think we retirees
might be the luckiest and most prosperous generation in American
history and we won't be around to see the consequences of our actions.
A lot of resourses are located in the earth's mantel which is about 60 miles down. So, all we have to do is figure out how to mine the earth's resources 60 miles down and produce all the steel we need for several hundred years. Might even be some gold down there.
rumpelstiltskin
2018-03-14 06:23:33 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
Post by mg
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), GLOBALIST
Post by GLOBALIST
Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.
Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.
If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.
Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html
-------------------------------------------------------
"Smart growth' destroys the environment. 'Dumb growth'
destroys the environment. The only difference is that
'smart growth' does it with good taste. It's like
booking passage on the Titanic. Whether you go
first-class or steerage, the result is the same."
--Dr. Albert A. Bartlett, Emeritus Professor of Physics,
University of Colorado; World Population Balance Board
of Advisors
I hope this won't spoil my week end?
We're the lucky generation; it's a good life for us, in fact, speaking
for myself, it's been and is a terrific life. I think we retirees
might be the luckiest and most prosperous generation in American
history and we won't be around to see the consequences of our actions.
A lot of resourses are located in the earth's mantel which is about 60 miles down. So, all we have to do is figure out how to mine the earth's resources 60 miles down and produce all the steel we need for several hundred years. Might even be some gold down there.
No problem, just crack the Earth's crust into pieces,
all over the planet. We're already doing that to get
oil, so why not go the whole hog. What could go
wrong?

Jack Fate
2018-03-13 16:41:31 UTC
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Post by GLOBALIST
Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.
Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.
If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.
Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html
-------------------------------------------------------
"Smart growth' destroys the environment. 'Dumb growth'
destroys the environment. The only difference is that
'smart growth' does it with good taste. It's like
booking passage on the Titanic. Whether you go
first-class or steerage, the result is the same."
--Dr. Albert A. Bartlett, Emeritus Professor of Physics,
University of Colorado; World Population Balance Board
of Advisors
I hope this won't spoil my week end?
It figures your reaction would be flippant stupidity laced with proud
ignorance.
wolfbat359
2018-03-13 15:21:28 UTC
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Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.
Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.
If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.
Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html
Such as Planned Parents International are trying.:

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/planned-parenthood-global

Planned Parenthood Global

Health has no borders. For more than 45 years, Planned Parenthood Global has been working overseas to ensure that women, men, and young people in some of the world’s most neglected areas have access to the health care they need to control their bodies and their futures.
mg
2018-03-13 16:18:33 UTC
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:21:28 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
Post by wolfbat359
Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.
Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.
If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.
Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/planned-parenthood-global
Planned Parenthood Global
Health has no borders. For more than 45 years, Planned Parenthood Global has been working overseas to ensure that women, men, and young people in some of the world’s most neglected areas have access to the health care they need to control their bodies and their futures.
Yes, I agree.
me
2018-03-13 15:45:23 UTC
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This is a variation of similar warnings that have so far not materialized.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism

But eventually there are limits to everything. There are even innovation limits to creating money from nothing to stoke consumption and stave off social conflict.
rumpelstiltskin
2018-03-13 15:56:58 UTC
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Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
I don't think most people, and certainly not most governments,
are really paying any attention at all. Just a lot of jibber-jabber
that will never be anything more than jibber-jabber. "Never"
until the Earth is a lifeless steaming wreck, that is.
Post by mg
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
me
2018-03-13 16:15:32 UTC
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Long before Earth becomes a steaming wreck the folks of Oakland will confiscate your rent controlled apartment and serve you for lunch.
mg
2018-03-13 16:32:56 UTC
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Post by rumpelstiltskin
Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
I don't think most people, and certainly not most governments,
are really paying any attention at all. Just a lot of jibber-jabber
that will never be anything more than jibber-jabber. "Never"
until the Earth is a lifeless steaming wreck, that is.
One of my favorite poems is "The Hollow Men" by T.S. Eliot and the
last 4 lines go like this:

"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper."

I think a lot of people expect to see dramatic cataclysmic events to
signal end times. I think that's the way the Bible is, for example.
It's just human nature, I suppose, that we expect to go out with one
glorious, big bang. But I don't think that's how overpopulation works.
What actually happens is more like the proverbial frog in hot water.
Or, in other words, humans will most likely just become more and more
miserable as the quality of life continues to decline and decline and
decline.
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Post by mg
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
rumpelstiltskin
2018-03-13 17:48:25 UTC
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Post by mg
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
I don't think most people, and certainly not most governments,
are really paying any attention at all. Just a lot of jibber-jabber
that will never be anything more than jibber-jabber. "Never"
until the Earth is a lifeless steaming wreck, that is.
One of my favorite poems is "The Hollow Men" by T.S. Eliot and the
"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper."
I think a lot of people expect to see dramatic cataclysmic events to
signal end times. I think that's the way the Bible is, for example.
It's just human nature, I suppose, that we expect to go out with one
glorious, big bang. But I don't think that's how overpopulation works.
What actually happens is more like the proverbial frog in hot water.
Or, in other words, humans will most likely just become more and more
miserable as the quality of life continues to decline and decline and
decline.
I always thought that would be an awful thing to do to
a frog. As a kid once, there was a big toad living under
the steps of a friend's house. The other kids didn't want
to touch it, but I picked it up and looked it in the eye. It
peed a surprising volume, all on my shirt. I put the toad
down gently and said I was going home to change my
shirt. The other kids seemed surprised I didn't react
with vengeance to the toad, but as I said to them, he
was just scared. I guess I was an "enlightened being"
even that far back, pre-puberty. That's something I've
always suspected. (pat-pat -- OUCH)

I don't think I've ever seen a toad since that day.
Even frogs are a rare sight these days. I remember
seeing quite a few jumping around up in the Sierras
near Yosemite, and the last time I was at Stow Lake
in San Francisco, which was years ago, there were
frogs there too, as I recall. The most memorable
thing at Stow Lake was the bass though. The Lake
is very muddy at the fringes, but if you drop a piece
of floatable food in it, a hole will open up in the
waters to swallow the food. You can't see the bass,
just the hole opening up in the water. It's very
Hieronymus-Bosch-like:
https://tinyurl.com/ycmzwvu6

My Canadian cousins have a pond that once had
lots of frogs in it, but one day a heron came by and
ate them all up.

I have seen a horned toad, at the Grand Canyon,
and I picked that up too, though I was wary of it
squirting blood at me through it's eyes, which I
had heard horned toads can do. If they can though,
this one didn't do it. (Horned toads are lizards, not
toads, for those unfamiliar with that little fact.)
Post by mg
Post by rumpelstiltskin
Post by mg
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
wolfbat359
2018-03-13 18:16:57 UTC
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Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.
Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.
If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.
Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html
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rumpelstiltskin
2018-03-13 18:48:54 UTC
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 11:16:57 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
Post by wolfbat359
Post by mg
"20,000 scientists give dire warning about the future in 'letter to
humanity' – and the world is listening
Andrew Griffin, 5 days ago
A dire warning to the world about its future, which predicts
catastrophe for humanity, is continuing to gain momentum.
The letter – which was first released in November – has now been
signed by around 20,000 scientists. And the world seems to be
listening: it is now one of the most discussed pieces of scientific
research ever, and its publishers claim it is now influencing policy.
The new letter was actually an update to a an original warning sent
from the Union of Concerned Scientists that was backed by 1,700
signatures 25 years ago. It said that the world had changed
dramatically since that warning was issued – and almost entirely for
the worse.
Mankind is still facing the existential threat of runaway consumption
of limited resources by a rapidly growing population, they warned. And
“scientists, media influencers and lay citizens” aren’t doing enough
to fight against it, the letter read.
If the world doesn’t act soon, there will be catastrophic biodiversity
loss and untold amounts of human misery, they wrote.
Now scientists have written a follow-up piece in which they argue
scientists and economists need to switch their focus from encouraging
growth to conserving the planet. “There are critical environmental
limits to resource-dependent economic growth,” the authors state. . .
."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-scientists-warning-climate-change-global-warming-experts-a8243606.html
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Man is the most numerous large animal in the history of
the earth, with the greatest net biomass. His influence in
such numbers is very obviously damaging the planet, yet
we still have people advocating increasing populations, by
birth-rate or by immigration. It's nuts, IMO: we should be
cutting down on the population instead. Since prosperity
of nations seems to naturally produce a lower birth rate,
that would be the best way to go, if we can do it. Other
than disease and parasites, mankind doesn't have a
significant predator population to keep its numbers in
balance naturally anymore.
d***@gmail.com
2018-03-14 01:19:19 UTC
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The Union of Concerned Scientists was famous for a clock on the cover of their magazine (the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists) that showed how many minutes we were away from a nuclear war. They are for peace. My wife subscribed, and within a month or so she began getting a free subscription to Soviet Life. I told you so, Comrade Wife.

One day at work I saw the cover of a copy of Soviet Life pinned to a bulletin board outside the office of a programmer. He was obviously irritated to be getting a subscription he hadn't asked for. I asked him if he subscribed to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists by any chance. He did.

I spared him the 'Comrade Programmer' line.

Eugene FitzAubrey
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