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Chicago reviewing statues of Lincoln, Washington, other US icons for possible 'action'
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Johnny
2021-02-18 18:26:57 UTC
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By Audrey Conklin
Published 49 mins ago

Chicago has developed a new initiative called the Chicago Monuments
Project, which will allow community members and local experts to review
monuments in the area and determine whether they "warrant attention or
action."

The new project and website come after Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
announced the city's decision to remove two Christopher Columbus
statues in June after rioters clashed with police and attempted to
topple at least one statue in Grant Park.

The Chicago Monuments Project aims to "grapple with the often
unacknowledged – or forgotten – history ... and provides a vehicle to
address the hard truths of Chicago’s racial history, confront the ways
in which that history has and has not been memorialized, and develop a
framework for marking public space that elevates new ways to
memorialize Chicago's history more equitably and accurately."

About 40 monuments have been identified "for public discussion,"
including those memorializing former President George Washington, Union
Army commanding general and former President Ulysses S. Grant, Benjamin
Franklin, Columbus and a police officer representing the Haymarket
massacre.

The list also includes several statues of former President Abraham
Lincoln; "Land of Lincoln" is Illinois' official state slogan and
symbolizes democracy, according to the nonprofit organization State
Symbols USA.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-statues-lincoln-washington

Seems to me the black people want to have the say of which monuments
and statues should represent American history.

Whether they like it or not, those statues and monuments they want to
remove, do represent American history.

This is a good example of the lack on intellectual capacity of black
people, that they can't accept the past as it happened, move on.
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-02-18 19:07:47 UTC
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By Audrey Conklin
Published 49 mins ago
Chicago has developed a new initiative called the Chicago Monuments
Project, which will allow community members and local experts to review
monuments in the area and determine whether they "warrant attention or
action."
The new project and website come after Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
announced the city's decision to remove two Christopher Columbus
statues in June after rioters clashed with police and attempted to
topple at least one statue in Grant Park.
The Chicago Monuments Project aims to "grapple with the often
unacknowledged – or forgotten – history ... and provides a vehicle to
address the hard truths of Chicago’s racial history, confront the ways
in which that history has and has not been memorialized, and develop a
framework for marking public space that elevates new ways to
memorialize Chicago's history more equitably and accurately."
About 40 monuments have been identified "for public discussion,"
including those memorializing former President George Washington, Union
Army commanding general and former President Ulysses S. Grant, Benjamin
Franklin, Columbus and a police officer representing the Haymarket
massacre.
The list also includes several statues of former President Abraham
Lincoln; "Land of Lincoln" is Illinois' official state slogan and
symbolizes democracy, according to the nonprofit organization State
Symbols USA.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-statues-lincoln-washington
Seems to me the black people want to have the say of which monuments
and statues should represent American history.
Whether they like it or not, those statues and monuments they want to
remove, do represent American history.
This is a good example of the lack on intellectual capacity of black
people, that they can't accept the past as it happened, move on.
I do want to see statues of Lincoln or Washington removed. But, the
discussions are reasonable, removal of Confederate statues is warranted,
and your comment about intellectual capacity is personally offensive
because it applies to me.
El Castor
2021-02-19 05:14:09 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:07:47 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
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Post by Johnny
By Audrey Conklin
Published 49 mins ago
Chicago has developed a new initiative called the Chicago Monuments
Project, which will allow community members and local experts to review
monuments in the area and determine whether they "warrant attention or
action."
The new project and website come after Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
announced the city's decision to remove two Christopher Columbus
statues in June after rioters clashed with police and attempted to
topple at least one statue in Grant Park.
The Chicago Monuments Project aims to "grapple with the often
unacknowledged – or forgotten – history ... and provides a vehicle to
address the hard truths of Chicago’s racial history, confront the ways
in which that history has and has not been memorialized, and develop a
framework for marking public space that elevates new ways to
memorialize Chicago's history more equitably and accurately."
About 40 monuments have been identified "for public discussion,"
including those memorializing former President George Washington, Union
Army commanding general and former President Ulysses S. Grant, Benjamin
Franklin, Columbus and a police officer representing the Haymarket
massacre.
The list also includes several statues of former President Abraham
Lincoln; "Land of Lincoln" is Illinois' official state slogan and
symbolizes democracy, according to the nonprofit organization State
Symbols USA.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-statues-lincoln-washington
Seems to me the black people want to have the say of which monuments
and statues should represent American history.
Whether they like it or not, those statues and monuments they want to
remove, do represent American history.
This is a good example of the lack on intellectual capacity of black
people, that they can't accept the past as it happened, move on.
I do want to see statues of Lincoln or Washington removed. But, the
discussions are reasonable, removal of Confederate statues is warranted,
and your comment about intellectual capacity is personally offensive
because it applies to me.
Did you really mean to say "I do want to see statues of Lincoln or
Washington removed"? Typo?
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-02-19 05:16:23 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:07:47 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
By Audrey Conklin
Published 49 mins ago
Chicago has developed a new initiative called the Chicago Monuments
Project, which will allow community members and local experts to review
monuments in the area and determine whether they "warrant attention or
action."
The new project and website come after Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
announced the city's decision to remove two Christopher Columbus
statues in June after rioters clashed with police and attempted to
topple at least one statue in Grant Park.
The Chicago Monuments Project aims to "grapple with the often
unacknowledged – or forgotten – history ... and provides a vehicle to
address the hard truths of Chicago’s racial history, confront the ways
in which that history has and has not been memorialized, and develop a
framework for marking public space that elevates new ways to
memorialize Chicago's history more equitably and accurately."
About 40 monuments have been identified "for public discussion,"
including those memorializing former President George Washington, Union
Army commanding general and former President Ulysses S. Grant, Benjamin
Franklin, Columbus and a police officer representing the Haymarket
massacre.
The list also includes several statues of former President Abraham
Lincoln; "Land of Lincoln" is Illinois' official state slogan and
symbolizes democracy, according to the nonprofit organization State
Symbols USA.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-statues-lincoln-washington
Seems to me the black people want to have the say of which monuments
and statues should represent American history.
Whether they like it or not, those statues and monuments they want to
remove, do represent American history.
This is a good example of the lack on intellectual capacity of black
people, that they can't accept the past as it happened, move on.
I do want to see statues of Lincoln or Washington removed. But, the
discussions are reasonable, removal of Confederate statues is warranted,
and your comment about intellectual capacity is personally offensive
because it applies to me.
Did you really mean to say "I do want to see statues of Lincoln or
Washington removed"? Typo?
Typo. I do *not*.
Johnny
2021-02-19 18:10:52 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:07:47 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
By Audrey Conklin
Published 49 mins ago
Chicago has developed a new initiative called the Chicago Monuments
Project, which will allow community members and local experts to
review monuments in the area and determine whether they "warrant
attention or action."
The new project and website come after Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
announced the city's decision to remove two Christopher Columbus
statues in June after rioters clashed with police and attempted to
topple at least one statue in Grant Park.
The Chicago Monuments Project aims to "grapple with the often
unacknowledged – or forgotten – history ... and provides a vehicle
to address the hard truths of Chicago’s racial history, confront
the ways in which that history has and has not been memorialized,
and develop a framework for marking public space that elevates new
ways to memorialize Chicago's history more equitably and
accurately."
About 40 monuments have been identified "for public discussion,"
including those memorializing former President George Washington,
Union Army commanding general and former President Ulysses S.
Grant, Benjamin Franklin, Columbus and a police officer
representing the Haymarket massacre.
The list also includes several statues of former President Abraham
Lincoln; "Land of Lincoln" is Illinois' official state slogan and
symbolizes democracy, according to the nonprofit organization State
Symbols USA.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-statues-lincoln-washington
Seems to me the black people want to have the say of which monuments
and statues should represent American history.
Whether they like it or not, those statues and monuments they want
to remove, do represent American history.
This is a good example of the lack on intellectual capacity of black
people, that they can't accept the past as it happened, move on.
I do want to see statues of Lincoln or Washington removed. But, the
discussions are reasonable, removal of Confederate statues is
warranted, and your comment about intellectual capacity is personally
offensive because it applies to me.
I don't like Oakland naming a street after Huey Newton, but I wouldn't
paint over the street sign so no one could see it.
El Castor
2021-02-19 18:39:26 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:07:47 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
By Audrey Conklin
Published 49 mins ago
Chicago has developed a new initiative called the Chicago Monuments
Project, which will allow community members and local experts to
review monuments in the area and determine whether they "warrant
attention or action."
The new project and website come after Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
announced the city's decision to remove two Christopher Columbus
statues in June after rioters clashed with police and attempted to
topple at least one statue in Grant Park.
The Chicago Monuments Project aims to "grapple with the often
unacknowledged – or forgotten – history ... and provides a vehicle
to address the hard truths of Chicago’s racial history, confront
the ways in which that history has and has not been memorialized,
and develop a framework for marking public space that elevates new
ways to memorialize Chicago's history more equitably and
accurately."
About 40 monuments have been identified "for public discussion,"
including those memorializing former President George Washington,
Union Army commanding general and former President Ulysses S.
Grant, Benjamin Franklin, Columbus and a police officer
representing the Haymarket massacre.
The list also includes several statues of former President Abraham
Lincoln; "Land of Lincoln" is Illinois' official state slogan and
symbolizes democracy, according to the nonprofit organization State
Symbols USA.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-statues-lincoln-washington
Seems to me the black people want to have the say of which monuments
and statues should represent American history.
Whether they like it or not, those statues and monuments they want
to remove, do represent American history.
This is a good example of the lack on intellectual capacity of black
people, that they can't accept the past as it happened, move on.
I do want to see statues of Lincoln or Washington removed. But, the
discussions are reasonable, removal of Confederate statues is
warranted, and your comment about intellectual capacity is personally
offensive because it applies to me.
I don't like Oakland naming a street after Huey Newton, but I wouldn't
paint over the street sign so no one could see it.
Around here one of the main thoroughfares is Sir Francis Drake Blvd.
Drake landed on the coast near here and was the Brit discoverer of
California. A few months ago someone announced that Drake had
transported slaves before he got into the exploration business!
Aieeeee!!! The campaign was on to change the name of the boulevard.
It's being voted on in various cities. Looks like it's going down to
defeat. Someone figured out what it would cost to change the name of a
43 mile long road and all of it's addresses. (-8
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-02-19 19:38:38 UTC
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Post by El Castor
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:07:47 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
By Audrey Conklin
Published 49 mins ago
Chicago has developed a new initiative called the Chicago Monuments
Project, which will allow community members and local experts to
review monuments in the area and determine whether they "warrant
attention or action."
The new project and website come after Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
announced the city's decision to remove two Christopher Columbus
statues in June after rioters clashed with police and attempted to
topple at least one statue in Grant Park.
The Chicago Monuments Project aims to "grapple with the often
unacknowledged – or forgotten – history ... and provides a vehicle
to address the hard truths of Chicago’s racial history, confront
the ways in which that history has and has not been memorialized,
and develop a framework for marking public space that elevates new
ways to memorialize Chicago's history more equitably and
accurately."
About 40 monuments have been identified "for public discussion,"
including those memorializing former President George Washington,
Union Army commanding general and former President Ulysses S.
Grant, Benjamin Franklin, Columbus and a police officer
representing the Haymarket massacre.
The list also includes several statues of former President Abraham
Lincoln; "Land of Lincoln" is Illinois' official state slogan and
symbolizes democracy, according to the nonprofit organization State
Symbols USA.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-statues-lincoln-washington
Seems to me the black people want to have the say of which monuments
and statues should represent American history.
Whether they like it or not, those statues and monuments they want
to remove, do represent American history.
This is a good example of the lack on intellectual capacity of black
people, that they can't accept the past as it happened, move on.
I do want to see statues of Lincoln or Washington removed. But, the
discussions are reasonable, removal of Confederate statues is
warranted, and your comment about intellectual capacity is personally
offensive because it applies to me.
I don't like Oakland naming a street after Huey Newton, but I wouldn't
paint over the street sign so no one could see it.
Of course you shouldn't take the law into your own hands by painting
over a street sign. But, you could lobby to have the name changed.
El Castor
2021-02-19 20:57:28 UTC
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Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:07:47 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
By Audrey Conklin
Published 49 mins ago
Chicago has developed a new initiative called the Chicago Monuments
Project, which will allow community members and local experts to
review monuments in the area and determine whether they "warrant
attention or action."
The new project and website come after Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
announced the city's decision to remove two Christopher Columbus
statues in June after rioters clashed with police and attempted to
topple at least one statue in Grant Park.
The Chicago Monuments Project aims to "grapple with the often
unacknowledged – or forgotten – history ... and provides a vehicle
to address the hard truths of Chicago’s racial history, confront
the ways in which that history has and has not been memorialized,
and develop a framework for marking public space that elevates new
ways to memorialize Chicago's history more equitably and
accurately."
About 40 monuments have been identified "for public discussion,"
including those memorializing former President George Washington,
Union Army commanding general and former President Ulysses S.
Grant, Benjamin Franklin, Columbus and a police officer
representing the Haymarket massacre.
The list also includes several statues of former President Abraham
Lincoln; "Land of Lincoln" is Illinois' official state slogan and
symbolizes democracy, according to the nonprofit organization State
Symbols USA.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-statues-lincoln-washington
Seems to me the black people want to have the say of which monuments
and statues should represent American history.
Whether they like it or not, those statues and monuments they want
to remove, do represent American history.
This is a good example of the lack on intellectual capacity of black
people, that they can't accept the past as it happened, move on.
I do want to see statues of Lincoln or Washington removed. But, the
discussions are reasonable, removal of Confederate statues is
warranted, and your comment about intellectual capacity is personally
offensive because it applies to me.
I don't like Oakland naming a street after Huey Newton, but I wouldn't
paint over the street sign so no one could see it.
Of course you shouldn't take the law into your own hands by painting
over a street sign. But, you could lobby to have the name changed.
Having seen that tried (by the Left - another post) it is a very bad
idea. Every residence and business on the street, and every map (etc),
would have to change their address. Politics aside, what a pain in the
A$$.

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