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So how many illegal aliens are really in the US?
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Johnny
2021-02-25 13:35:32 UTC
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By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago

We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens in the
country. It's an obvious lie

Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a number?
You would think that people with functioning calculators could come to
similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but not in D.C. Try
getting a consensus on unemployment projections or consumer confidence
levels from members of Congress. You can't even get a straight answer
on how many troops will be occupying the Capitol three months from now,
and that's something they directly control.

With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely the
same number when discussing one of the most critical problems that we
face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell us, is exactly
how many foreign nationals currently live here illegally.

It's almost like a script now. People have different views on what we
ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody questions how many
there are. There are 11 million, period.

A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden promised:
"Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a
pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people, and all
of those so-called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be
immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and put
on a path to citizenship."

Cut!

It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health care" to
11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S. economy. As Milton
Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a welfare state or you can
have open borders, but you cannot have both.

We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal aliens in
this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a totally fake
number which people endlessly repeat either because they are badly
informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that number for more than
15 years.

Cut!

So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much everybody
who talks about immigration is using the Census Bureau's annual
American Community Survey to estimate how many illegal immigrants live
in this country. The Census Bureau tallies up the number of
foreign-born people they've identified who live in this country, then
estimate or subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.

The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong. Many
illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would they say
they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former director of the
Census Bureau, summed up the reality this way: "There is no magic
bullet that anyone has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."

The whole story:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
El Castor
2021-02-25 17:34:55 UTC
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Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens in the
country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a number?
You would think that people with functioning calculators could come to
similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but not in D.C. Try
getting a consensus on unemployment projections or consumer confidence
levels from members of Congress. You can't even get a straight answer
on how many troops will be occupying the Capitol three months from now,
and that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely the
same number when discussing one of the most critical problems that we
face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell us, is exactly
how many foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on what we
ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody questions how many
there are. There are 11 million, period.
"Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a
pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people, and all
of those so-called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be
immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and put
on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health care" to
11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S. economy. As Milton
Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a welfare state or you can
have open borders, but you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal aliens in
this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a totally fake
number which people endlessly repeat either because they are badly
informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that number for more than
15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much everybody
who talks about immigration is using the Census Bureau's annual
American Community Survey to estimate how many illegal immigrants live
in this country. The Census Bureau tallies up the number of
foreign-born people they've identified who live in this country, then
estimate or subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong. Many
illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would they say
they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former director of the
Census Bureau, summed up the reality this way: "There is no magic
bullet that anyone has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Johnny
2021-02-25 21:00:49 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens in
the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning calculators
could come to similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but
not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on unemployment projections or
consumer confidence levels from members of Congress. You can't even
get a straight answer on how many troops will be occupying the
Capitol three months from now, and that's something they directly
control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely the
same number when discussing one of the most critical problems that we
face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell us, is
exactly how many foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on what we
ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody questions how many
there are. There are 11 million, period.
"Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a
pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people, and
all of those so-called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be
immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and
put on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health care"
to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S. economy. As
Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a welfare state or
you can have open borders, but you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal aliens in
this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a totally fake
number which people endlessly repeat either because they are badly
informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that number for more
than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much everybody
who talks about immigration is using the Census Bureau's annual
American Community Survey to estimate how many illegal immigrants
live in this country. The Census Bureau tallies up the number of
foreign-born people they've identified who live in this country, then
estimate or subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong. Many
illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would they say
they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former director of the
Census Bureau, summed up the reality this way: "There is no magic
bullet that anyone has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here, and
then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he above the
law, or does he make the law?
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-02-25 23:25:18 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens in
the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning calculators
could come to similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but
not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on unemployment projections or
consumer confidence levels from members of Congress. You can't even
get a straight answer on how many troops will be occupying the
Capitol three months from now, and that's something they directly
control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely the
same number when discussing one of the most critical problems that we
face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell us, is
exactly how many foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on what we
ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody questions how many
there are. There are 11 million, period.
"Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a
pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people, and
all of those so-called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be
immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and
put on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health care"
to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S. economy. As
Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a welfare state or
you can have open borders, but you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal aliens in
this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a totally fake
number which people endlessly repeat either because they are badly
informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that number for more
than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much everybody
who talks about immigration is using the Census Bureau's annual
American Community Survey to estimate how many illegal immigrants
live in this country. The Census Bureau tallies up the number of
foreign-born people they've identified who live in this country, then
estimate or subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong. Many
illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would they say
they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former director of the
Census Bureau, summed up the reality this way: "There is no magic
bullet that anyone has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here, and
then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he above the
law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
Johnny
2021-02-25 23:26:48 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens
in the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning calculators
could come to similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but
not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on unemployment projections or
consumer confidence levels from members of Congress. You can't
even get a straight answer on how many troops will be occupying
the Capitol three months from now, and that's something they
directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely
the same number when discussing one of the most critical problems
that we face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell
us, is exactly how many foreign nationals currently live here
illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on
what we ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody
questions how many there are. There are 11 million, period.
A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden
promised: "Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United
States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million
undocumented people, and all of those so-called Dreamers, those
DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified again to be
able to stay in this country and put on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health
care" to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S.
economy. As Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a
welfare state or you can have open borders, but you cannot have
both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal
aliens in this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a
totally fake number which people endlessly repeat either because
they are badly informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that
number for more than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much
everybody who talks about immigration is using the Census
Bureau's annual American Community Survey to estimate how many
illegal immigrants live in this country. The Census Bureau
tallies up the number of foreign-born people they've identified
who live in this country, then estimate or subtract the number of
foreign-born people known to be in the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11
million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong.
Many illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would
they say they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former
"There is no magic bullet that anyone has discovered to count
this population [illegal immigrants]. This is really very
difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30
million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here, and
then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he above the
law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
So there are no more illegal immigrants? Everyone is an asylum seeker?
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-02-25 23:32:05 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens
in the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning calculators
could come to similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but
not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on unemployment projections or
consumer confidence levels from members of Congress. You can't
even get a straight answer on how many troops will be occupying
the Capitol three months from now, and that's something they
directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely
the same number when discussing one of the most critical problems
that we face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell
us, is exactly how many foreign nationals currently live here
illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on
what we ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody
questions how many there are. There are 11 million, period.
A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden
promised: "Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United
States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million
undocumented people, and all of those so-called Dreamers, those
DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified again to be
able to stay in this country and put on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health
care" to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S.
economy. As Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a
welfare state or you can have open borders, but you cannot have
both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal
aliens in this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a
totally fake number which people endlessly repeat either because
they are badly informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that
number for more than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much
everybody who talks about immigration is using the Census
Bureau's annual American Community Survey to estimate how many
illegal immigrants live in this country. The Census Bureau
tallies up the number of foreign-born people they've identified
who live in this country, then estimate or subtract the number of
foreign-born people known to be in the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11
million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong.
Many illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would
they say they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former
"There is no magic bullet that anyone has discovered to count
this population [illegal immigrants]. This is really very
difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30
million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here, and
then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he above the
law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
So there are no more illegal immigrants? Everyone is an asylum seeker?
Of course not. But most of cases currently at the border (e.g., the
caravans) are claiming asylum status. If they weren't claiming that
status, the law would require Biden to detain and immediately deport them.
Johnny
2021-02-25 23:45:08 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:32:05 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens
in the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning calculators
could come to similar math- based conclusions once in a while,
but not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on unemployment
projections or consumer confidence levels from members of
Congress. You can't even get a straight answer on how many
troops will be occupying the Capitol three months from now, and
that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat
precisely the same number when discussing one of the most
critical problems that we face. That number is 11 million. That
number, they tell us, is exactly how many foreign nationals
currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on
what we ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody
questions how many there are. There are 11 million, period.
A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden
promised: "Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United
States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million
undocumented people, and all of those so-called Dreamers, those
DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified again to be
able to stay in this country and put on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health
care" to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S.
economy. As Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a
welfare state or you can have open borders, but you cannot have
both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal
aliens in this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a
totally fake number which people endlessly repeat either because
they are badly informed or dishonest. They've been repeating
that number for more than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much
everybody who talks about immigration is using the Census
Bureau's annual American Community Survey to estimate how many
illegal immigrants live in this country. The Census Bureau
tallies up the number of foreign-born people they've identified
who live in this country, then estimate or subtract the number
of foreign-born people known to be in the U.S. legally. Bingo,
11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong.
Many illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why
would they say they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former
"There is no magic bullet that anyone has discovered to count
this population [illegal immigrants]. This is really very
difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here,
and then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he
above the law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
So there are no more illegal immigrants? Everyone is an asylum seeker?
Of course not. But most of cases currently at the border (e.g., the
caravans) are claiming asylum status. If they weren't claiming that
status, the law would require Biden to detain and immediately deport them.
Do you think Biden is doing the right thing, or was Trump right to say
the asylum seekers should ask for asylum from Mexico first?
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-02-26 00:51:03 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:32:05 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens
in the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning calculators
could come to similar math- based conclusions once in a while,
but not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on unemployment
projections or consumer confidence levels from members of
Congress. You can't even get a straight answer on how many
troops will be occupying the Capitol three months from now, and
that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat
precisely the same number when discussing one of the most
critical problems that we face. That number is 11 million. That
number, they tell us, is exactly how many foreign nationals
currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on
what we ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody
questions how many there are. There are 11 million, period.
A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden
promised: "Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United
States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million
undocumented people, and all of those so-called Dreamers, those
DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified again to be
able to stay in this country and put on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health
care" to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S.
economy. As Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a
welfare state or you can have open borders, but you cannot have
both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal
aliens in this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a
totally fake number which people endlessly repeat either because
they are badly informed or dishonest. They've been repeating
that number for more than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much
everybody who talks about immigration is using the Census
Bureau's annual American Community Survey to estimate how many
illegal immigrants live in this country. The Census Bureau
tallies up the number of foreign-born people they've identified
who live in this country, then estimate or subtract the number
of foreign-born people known to be in the U.S. legally. Bingo,
11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong.
Many illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why
would they say they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former
"There is no magic bullet that anyone has discovered to count
this population [illegal immigrants]. This is really very
difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here,
and then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he
above the law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
So there are no more illegal immigrants? Everyone is an asylum seeker?
Of course not. But most of cases currently at the border (e.g., the
caravans) are claiming asylum status. If they weren't claiming that
status, the law would require Biden to detain and immediately deport them.
Do you think Biden is doing the right thing, or was Trump right to say
the asylum seekers should ask for asylum from Mexico first?
I see no reason they should be required to seek asylum in any particular
country first.
El Castor
2021-02-26 02:42:55 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens in
the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning calculators
could come to similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but
not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on unemployment projections or
consumer confidence levels from members of Congress. You can't even
get a straight answer on how many troops will be occupying the
Capitol three months from now, and that's something they directly
control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely the
same number when discussing one of the most critical problems that we
face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell us, is
exactly how many foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on what we
ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody questions how many
there are. There are 11 million, period.
"Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a
pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people, and
all of those so-called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be
immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and
put on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health care"
to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S. economy. As
Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a welfare state or
you can have open borders, but you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal aliens in
this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a totally fake
number which people endlessly repeat either because they are badly
informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that number for more
than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much everybody
who talks about immigration is using the Census Bureau's annual
American Community Survey to estimate how many illegal immigrants
live in this country. The Census Bureau tallies up the number of
foreign-born people they've identified who live in this country, then
estimate or subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong. Many
illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would they say
they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former director of the
Census Bureau, summed up the reality this way: "There is no magic
bullet that anyone has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here, and
then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he above the
law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
Huh, "the law requires them to be both detained and permitted to
apply"?? Asylum seekers are being released with a notice to appear in
court, at a later date. Is the Biden Adiministration violating the
law?

https://trib.com/news/national/biden-administration-to-allow-25-000-asylum-seekers-into-us/article_704992a5-ef49-5198-8f63-80ef5adfdad4.html

BTW -- As we all know (and by all I include Biden), most asylum
seekers will flee to sanctuary cities or states and fail to show up
for their asylum hearing.
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-02-26 03:53:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens in
the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning calculators
could come to similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but
not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on unemployment projections or
consumer confidence levels from members of Congress. You can't even
get a straight answer on how many troops will be occupying the
Capitol three months from now, and that's something they directly
control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely the
same number when discussing one of the most critical problems that we
face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell us, is
exactly how many foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on what we
ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody questions how many
there are. There are 11 million, period.
"Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a
pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people, and
all of those so-called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be
immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and
put on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health care"
to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S. economy. As
Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a welfare state or
you can have open borders, but you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal aliens in
this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a totally fake
number which people endlessly repeat either because they are badly
informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that number for more
than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much everybody
who talks about immigration is using the Census Bureau's annual
American Community Survey to estimate how many illegal immigrants
live in this country. The Census Bureau tallies up the number of
foreign-born people they've identified who live in this country, then
estimate or subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong. Many
illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would they say
they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former director of the
Census Bureau, summed up the reality this way: "There is no magic
bullet that anyone has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here, and
then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he above the
law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
Huh, "the law requires them to be both detained and permitted to
apply"?? Asylum seekers are being released with a notice to appear in
court, at a later date. Is the Biden Adiministration violating the
law?
https://trib.com/news/national/biden-administration-to-allow-25-000-asylum-seekers-into-us/article_704992a5-ef49-5198-8f63-80ef5adfdad4.html
BTW -- As we all know (and by all I include Biden), most asylum
seekers will flee to sanctuary cities or states and fail to show up
for their asylum hearing.
They are detained before they are released in order to start the
application. After that, the law permits their release.
El Castor
2021-02-26 07:11:16 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:53:25 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens in
the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning calculators
could come to similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but
not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on unemployment projections or
consumer confidence levels from members of Congress. You can't even
get a straight answer on how many troops will be occupying the
Capitol three months from now, and that's something they directly
control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely the
same number when discussing one of the most critical problems that we
face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell us, is
exactly how many foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on what we
ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody questions how many
there are. There are 11 million, period.
"Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a
pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people, and
all of those so-called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be
immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and
put on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health care"
to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S. economy. As
Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a welfare state or
you can have open borders, but you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal aliens in
this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a totally fake
number which people endlessly repeat either because they are badly
informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that number for more
than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much everybody
who talks about immigration is using the Census Bureau's annual
American Community Survey to estimate how many illegal immigrants
live in this country. The Census Bureau tallies up the number of
foreign-born people they've identified who live in this country, then
estimate or subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong. Many
illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would they say
they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former director of the
Census Bureau, summed up the reality this way: "There is no magic
bullet that anyone has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here, and
then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he above the
law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
Huh, "the law requires them to be both detained and permitted to
apply"?? Asylum seekers are being released with a notice to appear in
court, at a later date. Is the Biden Adiministration violating the
law?
https://trib.com/news/national/biden-administration-to-allow-25-000-asylum-seekers-into-us/article_704992a5-ef49-5198-8f63-80ef5adfdad4.html
BTW -- As we all know (and by all I include Biden), most asylum
seekers will flee to sanctuary cities or states and fail to show up
for their asylum hearing.
They are detained before they are released in order to start the
application. After that, the law permits their release.
I once posted a link to a scrap of paper found on the Mexican side of
the border. The paper contained instructions in Spanish explaining
what to say to make an asylum claim.

2019
"Homeland Security chief says 90% of asylum seekers miss court dates"
https://nypost.com/2019/06/11/homeland-security-chief-says-90-of-asylum-seekers-miss-court-dates/

Yes, yes, I know -- Democrats claim he lied, but at least for me it
has the ring of truth. Why should economic migrants (which is what
most are) pack up and leave their sanctuary city or state just because
they got piece of paper in the mail? I can't blame them. I'd probably
do the same if I were in their shoes. Granted they will ultimately be
votes for your party, but what will price will the rest of us pay for
your votes? You've destroyed the Black family. What next?
Johnny
2021-02-26 13:38:15 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 23:11:16 -0800
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:53:25 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal
aliens in the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning
calculators could come to similar math- based conclusions once
in a while, but not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on
unemployment projections or consumer confidence levels from
members of Congress. You can't even get a straight answer on
how many troops will be occupying the Capitol three months
from now, and that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch
virtually everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat,
repeat precisely the same number when discussing one of the
most critical problems that we face. That number is 11
million. That number, they tell us, is exactly how many
foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on
what we ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody
questions how many there are. There are 11 million, period.
A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden
promised: "Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United
States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million
undocumented people, and all of those so-called Dreamers,
those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified
again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path to
citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health
care" to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S.
economy. As Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a
welfare state or you can have open borders, but you cannot
have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal
aliens in this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's
a totally fake number which people endlessly repeat either
because they are badly informed or dishonest. They've been
repeating that number for more than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much
everybody who talks about immigration is using the Census
Bureau's annual American Community Survey to estimate how many
illegal immigrants live in this country. The Census Bureau
tallies up the number of foreign-born people they've
identified who live in this country, then estimate or subtract
the number of foreign-born people known to be in the U.S.
legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be
wrong. Many illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers.
Why would they say they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the
former director of the Census Bureau, summed up the reality
this way: "There is no magic bullet that anyone has discovered
to count this population [illegal immigrants]. This is really
very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here,
and then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he
above the law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
Huh, "the law requires them to be both detained and permitted to
apply"?? Asylum seekers are being released with a notice to appear
in court, at a later date. Is the Biden Adiministration violating
the law?
https://trib.com/news/national/biden-administration-to-allow-25-000-asylum-seekers-into-us/article_704992a5-ef49-5198-8f63-80ef5adfdad4.html
BTW -- As we all know (and by all I include Biden), most asylum
seekers will flee to sanctuary cities or states and fail to show up
for their asylum hearing.
They are detained before they are released in order to start the
application. After that, the law permits their release.
I once posted a link to a scrap of paper found on the Mexican side of
the border. The paper contained instructions in Spanish explaining
what to say to make an asylum claim.
2019
"Homeland Security chief says 90% of asylum seekers miss court dates"
https://nypost.com/2019/06/11/homeland-security-chief-says-90-of-asylum-seekers-miss-court-dates/
Yes, yes, I know -- Democrats claim he lied, but at least for me it
has the ring of truth. Why should economic migrants (which is what
most are) pack up and leave their sanctuary city or state just because
they got piece of paper in the mail? I can't blame them. I'd probably
do the same if I were in their shoes. Granted they will ultimately be
votes for your party, but what will price will the rest of us pay for
your votes? You've destroyed the Black family. What next?
Unfortunately the black people aren't smart enough to see what the
democrats are doing to them, by bringing in hundreds of thousand people
that will be competing with them for jobs.
Peter
2021-02-26 14:04:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 23:11:16 -0800
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:53:25 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal
aliens in the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning
calculators could come to similar math- based conclusions once
in a while, but not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on
unemployment projections or consumer confidence levels from
members of Congress. You can't even get a straight answer on
how many troops will be occupying the Capitol three months
from now, and that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch
virtually everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat,
repeat precisely the same number when discussing one of the
most critical problems that we face. That number is 11
million. That number, they tell us, is exactly how many
foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on
what we ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody
questions how many there are. There are 11 million, period.
A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden
promised: "Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United
States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million
undocumented people, and all of those so-called Dreamers,
those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified
again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path to
citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health
care" to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S.
economy. As Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a
welfare state or you can have open borders, but you cannot
have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal
aliens in this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's
a totally fake number which people endlessly repeat either
because they are badly informed or dishonest. They've been
repeating that number for more than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much
everybody who talks about immigration is using the Census
Bureau's annual American Community Survey to estimate how many
illegal immigrants live in this country. The Census Bureau
tallies up the number of foreign-born people they've
identified who live in this country, then estimate or subtract
the number of foreign-born people known to be in the U.S.
legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be
wrong. Many illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers.
Why would they say they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the
former director of the Census Bureau, summed up the reality
this way: "There is no magic bullet that anyone has discovered
to count this population [illegal immigrants]. This is really
very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here,
and then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he
above the law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
Huh, "the law requires them to be both detained and permitted to
apply"?? Asylum seekers are being released with a notice to appear
in court, at a later date. Is the Biden Adiministration violating
the law?
https://trib.com/news/national/biden-administration-to-allow-25-000-asylum-seekers-into-us/article_704992a5-ef49-5198-8f63-80ef5adfdad4.html
BTW -- As we all know (and by all I include Biden), most asylum
seekers will flee to sanctuary cities or states and fail to show up
for their asylum hearing.
They are detained before they are released in order to start the
application. After that, the law permits their release.
I once posted a link to a scrap of paper found on the Mexican side of
the border. The paper contained instructions in Spanish explaining
what to say to make an asylum claim.
2019
"Homeland Security chief says 90% of asylum seekers miss court dates"
https://nypost.com/2019/06/11/homeland-security-chief-says-90-of-asylum-seekers-miss-court-dates/
Yes, yes, I know -- Democrats claim he lied, but at least for me it
has the ring of truth. Why should economic migrants (which is what
most are) pack up and leave their sanctuary city or state just because
they got piece of paper in the mail? I can't blame them. I'd probably
do the same if I were in their shoes. Granted they will ultimately be
votes for your party, but what will price will the rest of us pay for
your votes? You've destroyed the Black family. What next?
Unfortunately the black people aren't smart enough to see what the
democrats are doing to them, by bringing in hundreds of thousand people
that will be competing with them for jobs.
You're assuming that the job market is limited and there's no such thing
as expansion. The truth is the white supremacists, aka Republicans,
don't like the idea of the USA turning brown. If the immigrants were
from Norway, Sweden or Denmark, neither you nor the GOP would say squat.
El Castor
2021-02-26 19:20:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 23:11:16 -0800
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:53:25 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal
aliens in the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a
number? You would think that people with functioning
calculators could come to similar math- based conclusions once
in a while, but not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on
unemployment projections or consumer confidence levels from
members of Congress. You can't even get a straight answer on
how many troops will be occupying the Capitol three months
from now, and that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch
virtually everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat,
repeat precisely the same number when discussing one of the
most critical problems that we face. That number is 11
million. That number, they tell us, is exactly how many
foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on
what we ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody
questions how many there are. There are 11 million, period.
A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden
promised: "Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United
States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million
undocumented people, and all of those so-called Dreamers,
those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified
again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path to
citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health
care" to 11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S.
economy. As Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a
welfare state or you can have open borders, but you cannot
have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal
aliens in this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's
a totally fake number which people endlessly repeat either
because they are badly informed or dishonest. They've been
repeating that number for more than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much
everybody who talks about immigration is using the Census
Bureau's annual American Community Survey to estimate how many
illegal immigrants live in this country. The Census Bureau
tallies up the number of foreign-born people they've
identified who live in this country, then estimate or subtract
the number of foreign-born people known to be in the U.S.
legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be
wrong. Many illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers.
Why would they say they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the
former director of the Census Bureau, summed up the reality
this way: "There is no magic bullet that anyone has discovered
to count this population [illegal immigrants]. This is really
very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here,
and then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them. Is he
above the law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be both
detained and permitted to apply.
Huh, "the law requires them to be both detained and permitted to
apply"?? Asylum seekers are being released with a notice to appear
in court, at a later date. Is the Biden Adiministration violating
the law?
https://trib.com/news/national/biden-administration-to-allow-25-000-asylum-seekers-into-us/article_704992a5-ef49-5198-8f63-80ef5adfdad4.html
BTW -- As we all know (and by all I include Biden), most asylum
seekers will flee to sanctuary cities or states and fail to show up
for their asylum hearing.
They are detained before they are released in order to start the
application. After that, the law permits their release.
I once posted a link to a scrap of paper found on the Mexican side of
the border. The paper contained instructions in Spanish explaining
what to say to make an asylum claim.
2019
"Homeland Security chief says 90% of asylum seekers miss court dates"
https://nypost.com/2019/06/11/homeland-security-chief-says-90-of-asylum-seekers-miss-court-dates/
Yes, yes, I know -- Democrats claim he lied, but at least for me it
has the ring of truth. Why should economic migrants (which is what
most are) pack up and leave their sanctuary city or state just because
they got piece of paper in the mail? I can't blame them. I'd probably
do the same if I were in their shoes. Granted they will ultimately be
votes for your party, but what will price will the rest of us pay for
your votes? You've destroyed the Black family. What next?
Unfortunately the black people aren't smart enough to see what the
democrats are doing to them, by bringing in hundreds of thousand people
that will be competing with them for jobs.
On that score, you are wrong. It doesn't take a college degree for a
Black worker to know who is taking his or her job, and they don't like
it.

"85 Percent of Black Americans Want Less Immigration, 79 Percent of
Whites Agree
African Americans are the Racial Group Most Opposed to Immigration"
https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2018/01/27/black-americans-racial-group-opposed-immigration-85-percent-want-less-immigration/

The Rainbow Coalition Evaporates
Black anger grows as illegal immigrants transform urban neighborhoods.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/rainbow-coalition-evaporates-13062.html

"Mayor Irving Thompson of Ashland, the county seat, told me that many
townspeople believed the corporation was preparing to recruit
immigrant workers in response to recent protests by local black
employees over working conditions. "The fear," high school history
teacher Mark Tucker said, "is that the next time black workers walk
out over a labor problem, they'll be replaced by Third World workers."
It is not a frivolous fear; replacing black employees--more than any
other Americans--with foreign workers has become somewhat commonplace
around the country under Washington's expanded immigration programs."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/againsti.htm

Do White Democrats care about the harm they are doing to the African
American community? Of course not.
Johnny
2021-02-26 20:25:22 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:20:47 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 23:11:16 -0800
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:53:25 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 07:35:32 -0600, Johnny
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal
aliens in the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree
on a number? You would think that people with functioning
calculators could come to similar math- based conclusions
once in a while, but not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on
unemployment projections or consumer confidence levels from
members of Congress. You can't even get a straight answer on
how many troops will be occupying the Capitol three months
from now, and that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch
virtually everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat,
repeat precisely the same number when discussing one of the
most critical problems that we face. That number is 11
million. That number, they tell us, is exactly how many
foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views
on what we ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody
questions how many there are. There are 11 million, period.
A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden
promised: "Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United
States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million
undocumented people, and all of those so-called Dreamers,
those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified
again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path
to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free
"health care" to 11 million new people could easily capsize
the U.S. economy. As Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you
can have a welfare state or you can have open borders, but
you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal
aliens in this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact,
it's a totally fake number which people endlessly repeat
either because they are badly informed or dishonest.
They've been repeating that number for more than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much
everybody who talks about immigration is using the Census
Bureau's annual American Community Survey to estimate how
many illegal immigrants live in this country. The Census
Bureau tallies up the number of foreign-born people they've
identified who live in this country, then estimate or
subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be
wrong. Many illegal immigrants don't respond to census
takers. Why would they say they're here illegally? Robert
Groves, the former director of the Census Bureau, summed up
the reality this way: "There is no magic bullet that anyone
has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come
here, and then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them.
Is he above the law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be
both detained and permitted to apply.
Huh, "the law requires them to be both detained and permitted to
apply"?? Asylum seekers are being released with a notice to
appear in court, at a later date. Is the Biden Adiministration
violating the law?
https://trib.com/news/national/biden-administration-to-allow-25-000-asylum-seekers-into-us/article_704992a5-ef49-5198-8f63-80ef5adfdad4.html
BTW -- As we all know (and by all I include Biden), most asylum
seekers will flee to sanctuary cities or states and fail to
show up for their asylum hearing.
They are detained before they are released in order to start the
application. After that, the law permits their release.
I once posted a link to a scrap of paper found on the Mexican side
of the border. The paper contained instructions in Spanish
explaining what to say to make an asylum claim.
2019
"Homeland Security chief says 90% of asylum seekers miss court dates"
https://nypost.com/2019/06/11/homeland-security-chief-says-90-of-asylum-seekers-miss-court-dates/
Yes, yes, I know -- Democrats claim he lied, but at least for me it
has the ring of truth. Why should economic migrants (which is what
most are) pack up and leave their sanctuary city or state just
because they got piece of paper in the mail? I can't blame them.
I'd probably do the same if I were in their shoes. Granted they
will ultimately be votes for your party, but what will price will
the rest of us pay for your votes? You've destroyed the Black
family. What next?
Unfortunately the black people aren't smart enough to see what the
democrats are doing to them, by bringing in hundreds of thousand
people that will be competing with them for jobs.
On that score, you are wrong. It doesn't take a college degree for a
Black worker to know who is taking his or her job, and they don't like
it.
"85 Percent of Black Americans Want Less Immigration, 79 Percent of
Whites Agree
African Americans are the Racial Group Most Opposed to Immigration"
https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2018/01/27/black-americans-racial-group-opposed-immigration-85-percent-want-less-immigration/
The Rainbow Coalition Evaporates
Black anger grows as illegal immigrants transform urban neighborhoods.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/rainbow-coalition-evaporates-13062.html
"Mayor Irving Thompson of Ashland, the county seat, told me that many
townspeople believed the corporation was preparing to recruit
immigrant workers in response to recent protests by local black
employees over working conditions. "The fear," high school history
teacher Mark Tucker said, "is that the next time black workers walk
out over a labor problem, they'll be replaced by Third World workers."
It is not a frivolous fear; replacing black employees--more than any
other Americans--with foreign workers has become somewhat commonplace
around the country under Washington's expanded immigration programs."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/againsti.htm
Do White Democrats care about the harm they are doing to the African
American community? Of course not.
I don't know why they keep voting for the democrats. They knew
immigration reform was a Biden campaign promise, and they knew what
that meant.
El Castor
2021-02-26 21:32:26 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:20:47 -0800
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 23:11:16 -0800
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:53:25 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:25:18 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:34:55 -0800
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 07:35:32 -0600, Johnny
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal
aliens in the country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree
on a number? You would think that people with functioning
calculators could come to similar math- based conclusions
once in a while, but not in D.C. Try getting a consensus on
unemployment projections or consumer confidence levels from
members of Congress. You can't even get a straight answer on
how many troops will be occupying the Capitol three months
from now, and that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch
virtually everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat,
repeat precisely the same number when discussing one of the
most critical problems that we face. That number is 11
million. That number, they tell us, is exactly how many
foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views
on what we ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody
questions how many there are. There are 11 million, period.
A month before last year's presidential election, Joe Biden
promised: "Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United
States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million
undocumented people, and all of those so-called Dreamers,
those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified
again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path
to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free
"health care" to 11 million new people could easily capsize
the U.S. economy. As Milton Friedman once wisely noted, you
can have a welfare state or you can have open borders, but
you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal
aliens in this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact,
it's a totally fake number which people endlessly repeat
either because they are badly informed or dishonest.
They've been repeating that number for more than 15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much
everybody who talks about immigration is using the Census
Bureau's annual American Community Survey to estimate how
many illegal immigrants live in this country. The Census
Bureau tallies up the number of foreign-born people they've
identified who live in this country, then estimate or
subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be
wrong. Many illegal immigrants don't respond to census
takers. Why would they say they're here illegally? Robert
Groves, the former director of the Census Bureau, summed up
the reality this way: "There is no magic bullet that anyone
has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Why can't Biden be charged with aiding and abetting illegal
immigration? He is encouraging illegal immigrants to come
here, and then telling the Border Patrol not to detain them.
Is he above the law, or does he make the law?
They are applying for asylum and the law requires them to be
both detained and permitted to apply.
Huh, "the law requires them to be both detained and permitted to
apply"?? Asylum seekers are being released with a notice to
appear in court, at a later date. Is the Biden Adiministration
violating the law?
https://trib.com/news/national/biden-administration-to-allow-25-000-asylum-seekers-into-us/article_704992a5-ef49-5198-8f63-80ef5adfdad4.html
BTW -- As we all know (and by all I include Biden), most asylum
seekers will flee to sanctuary cities or states and fail to
show up for their asylum hearing.
They are detained before they are released in order to start the
application. After that, the law permits their release.
I once posted a link to a scrap of paper found on the Mexican side
of the border. The paper contained instructions in Spanish
explaining what to say to make an asylum claim.
2019
"Homeland Security chief says 90% of asylum seekers miss court dates"
https://nypost.com/2019/06/11/homeland-security-chief-says-90-of-asylum-seekers-miss-court-dates/
Yes, yes, I know -- Democrats claim he lied, but at least for me it
has the ring of truth. Why should economic migrants (which is what
most are) pack up and leave their sanctuary city or state just
because they got piece of paper in the mail? I can't blame them.
I'd probably do the same if I were in their shoes. Granted they
will ultimately be votes for your party, but what will price will
the rest of us pay for your votes? You've destroyed the Black
family. What next?
Unfortunately the black people aren't smart enough to see what the
democrats are doing to them, by bringing in hundreds of thousand
people that will be competing with them for jobs.
On that score, you are wrong. It doesn't take a college degree for a
Black worker to know who is taking his or her job, and they don't like
it.
"85 Percent of Black Americans Want Less Immigration, 79 Percent of
Whites Agree
African Americans are the Racial Group Most Opposed to Immigration"
https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2018/01/27/black-americans-racial-group-opposed-immigration-85-percent-want-less-immigration/
The Rainbow Coalition Evaporates
Black anger grows as illegal immigrants transform urban neighborhoods.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/rainbow-coalition-evaporates-13062.html
"Mayor Irving Thompson of Ashland, the county seat, told me that many
townspeople believed the corporation was preparing to recruit
immigrant workers in response to recent protests by local black
employees over working conditions. "The fear," high school history
teacher Mark Tucker said, "is that the next time black workers walk
out over a labor problem, they'll be replaced by Third World workers."
It is not a frivolous fear; replacing black employees--more than any
other Americans--with foreign workers has become somewhat commonplace
around the country under Washington's expanded immigration programs."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/againsti.htm
Do White Democrats care about the harm they are doing to the African
American community? Of course not.
I don't know why they keep voting for the democrats. They knew
immigration reform was a Biden campaign promise, and they knew what
that meant.
That may be changing. Under Trump the Republican Party began to become
the Party of the workingman, while Democrats are increasingly leaning
toward Globalist Socialism. Even many Latinos are beginning to tilt
towards Republicans as they see their jobs threatened by new arrivals.
Still many Blacks and Latinos vote Democrat. Some Latinos because
Democrats will open the border, and both Latinos and Blacks because
Democrats promise free stuff, and assure them that all Whites (except
Dems of course) are racist.

"Blue-collar workers, including black and Hispanic voters, take major
turn toward GOP under Trump: Poll
Blue-collar voters made a major shift from the Democratic Party to the
GOP under former President Donald Trump, including those from Hispanic
and black demographics."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/blue-collar-workers-including-black-and-hispanic-voters-take-major-turn-toward-gop-under-trump-poll/ar-BB1dUw2Z?ocid=uxbndlbing
wolfbat359a@mindspring.com
2021-02-25 21:07:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens in the
country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a number?
You would think that people with functioning calculators could come to
similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but not in D.C. Try
getting a consensus on unemployment projections or consumer confidence
levels from members of Congress. You can't even get a straight answer
on how many troops will be occupying the Capitol three months from now,
and that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely the
same number when discussing one of the most critical problems that we
face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell us, is exactly
how many foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on what we
ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody questions how many
there are. There are 11 million, period.
"Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a
pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people, and all
of those so-called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be
immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and put
on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health care" to
11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S. economy. As Milton
Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a welfare state or you can
have open borders, but you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal aliens in
this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a totally fake
number which people endlessly repeat either because they are badly
informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that number for more than
15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much everybody
who talks about immigration is using the Census Bureau's annual
American Community Survey to estimate how many illegal immigrants live
in this country. The Census Bureau tallies up the number of
foreign-born people they've identified who live in this country, then
estimate or subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong. Many
illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would they say
they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former director of the
Census Bureau, summed up the reality this way: "There is no magic
bullet that anyone has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
Bottom line, likely around 22 million, and possibly over 30 million.
Most likely all Non-Native people
Peter
2021-02-26 13:26:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Johnny
By Tucker Carlson
Published 9 hours ago
We've been told for 15 years there are 11 million illegal aliens in the
country. It's an obvious lie
Have you ever noticed that nobody in Washington can agree on a number?
You would think that people with functioning calculators could come to
similar math- based conclusions once in a while, but not in D.C. Try
getting a consensus on unemployment projections or consumer confidence
levels from members of Congress. You can't even get a straight answer
on how many troops will be occupying the Capitol three months from now,
and that's something they directly control.
With all of that in mind, it's pretty amazing to watch virtually
everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat, repeat precisely the
same number when discussing one of the most critical problems that we
face. That number is 11 million. That number, they tell us, is exactly
how many foreign nationals currently live here illegally.
It's almost like a script now. People have different views on what we
ought to do about illegal immigrants, but nobody questions how many
there are. There are 11 million, period.
"Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a
pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people, and all
of those so-called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be
immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and put
on a path to citizenship."
Cut!
It doesn't take an economist to know that giving free "health care" to
11 million new people could easily capsize the U.S. economy. As Milton
Friedman once wisely noted, you can have a welfare state or you can
have open borders, but you cannot have both.
We all assume that 11 million is the real number of illegal aliens in
this country, but is it? No, it's not. In fact, it's a totally fake
number which people endlessly repeat either because they are badly
informed or dishonest. They've been repeating that number for more than
15 years.
Cut!
So what's going on here? Here's what we found: Pretty much everybody
who talks about immigration is using the Census Bureau's annual
American Community Survey to estimate how many illegal immigrants live
in this country. The Census Bureau tallies up the number of
foreign-born people they've identified who live in this country, then
estimate or subtract the number of foreign-born people known to be in
the U.S. legally. Bingo, 11 million.
The problem is this method of calculation is bound to be wrong. Many
illegal immigrants don't respond to census takers. Why would they say
they're here illegally? Robert Groves, the former director of the
Census Bureau, summed up the reality this way: "There is no magic
bullet that anyone has discovered to count this population [illegal
immigrants]. This is really very difficult to estimate."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-illegal-immigration-numbers-game
There is no such thing as "an illegal alien". Why? No human is an
illegal. No human is an alien and, so far, no alien has come to earth.
Tucker Carlson is a horrible human being, a heartless white supremacist.

Again, Johnny, why did Reagan and GW Bush give amnesty to millions of
undocumented immigrants? What did they know that you and Carlson don't know?
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