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Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
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Earl Evleth
2011-07-23 15:47:21 UTC
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It goes with the territory.

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Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
Pierre-Henry Deshayes
July 24, 2011 - 1:24AM


AFP

Police say the Norwegian suspect in the two attacks that left at least 92
dead described himself as a fundamentalist Christian, as evidence emerged
that he had flirted with the political far-right.

The 32-year-old, previously unknown to police, was arrested on Friday after
a bomb blast in central Oslo killed seven people and a shooting rampage at a
youth camp near the capital left at least 85 dead and scores wounded.

Local media have identified him as Anders Behring Breivik, whose picture on
his Facebook page shows a man with longish blonde hair and piercing eyes.
Advertisement: Story continues below

The posting lists his religion as "fundamentalist Christian" and his
political opinions lean "to the right", police said.

"He has certain political traits that lean to the right and are anti-Muslim
but it is too early to say if that was the motive for his actions," police
commissioner Sevinung Sponheim told public television NRK on Saturday.

In less than two hours on Friday the suspect allegedly carried out two
attacks that appeared to target the ruling Labour Party.

The first strike was a bomb attack near the offices of Prime Minister Jens
Stoltenberg and those of other ministers in the heart of Oslo's government
quarter.

In the second attack, about 40km from the capital, the suspect allegedly
masqueraded as a police officer before opening fire on young people
attending an island camp run for Labour's youth wing.

The head of the populist right-wing Progress Party (FrP), Siv Jensen, said
on Saturday she was sorry to learn that the suspect had been a party member
between 1999 and 2006 and for several years a leader in its youth movement.

"Those who knew the suspect when he was a member of the party say that he
seemed like a modest person that seldom engaged himself in the political
discussions," she said in a statement on the party's website.

He was also a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi Internet forum named Nordisk.

Nordisk hosts discussions rangingfrom white power music to political
strategies to crush democracy, according to the Stockholm-based Expo
foundation that monitors far-right activity.

Behring Breivik's Facebook profile says he is "conservative", "Christian",
and "single", interested in hunting and video games such as World of
Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2.

On an Internet debate site www.document.no in 2009, he expressed his
frustrations with the Progress Party. In their desperate attempt to satisfy
multicultural expectations and "the suicidal ideals of humanism, they have
thrown the baby out with the bath water", he wrote.

He also said he was the manager of an organic farm, Breivik Geofarm, which
would have given him access to raw materials that could be used to make
explosives.

He reportedly bought six tonnes of fertiliser in May, an agriculture
cooperative said.

Tax records, which are open to the public in Norway, show that the suspect
listed no income for 2009 and modest sums in the previous years.

On his Twitter account, Behring Breivik posted only one message, dated July
17, in English adapted from a quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill.

"One person with a belief is equal to a force of 100,000 who have only
interests," he wrote.
w***@europe.com
2011-07-23 16:54:09 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
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 Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
 Pierre-Henry Deshayes
July 24, 2011 - 1:24AM
 AFP
Police say the Norwegian suspect in the two attacks that left at least 92
dead described himself as a fundamentalist Christian, as evidence emerged
that he had flirted with the political far-right.
The 32-year-old, previously unknown to police, was arrested on Friday after
a bomb blast in central Oslo killed seven people and a shooting rampage at a
youth camp near the capital left at least 85 dead and scores wounded.
Local media have identified him as Anders Behring Breivik, whose picture on
his Facebook page shows a man with longish blonde hair and piercing eyes.
Advertisement: Story continues below
The posting lists his religion as "fundamentalist Christian" and his
political opinions lean "to the right", police said.
"He has certain political traits that lean to the right and are anti-Muslim
but it is too early to say if that was the motive for his actions," police
commissioner Sevinung Sponheim told public television NRK on Saturday.
In less than two hours on Friday the suspect allegedly carried out two
attacks that appeared to target the ruling Labour Party.
The first strike was a bomb attack near the offices of Prime Minister Jens
Stoltenberg and those of other ministers in the heart of Oslo's government
quarter.
In the second attack, about 40km from the capital, the suspect allegedly
masqueraded as a police officer before opening fire on young people
attending an island camp run for Labour's youth wing.
The head of the populist right-wing Progress Party (FrP), Siv Jensen, said
on Saturday she was sorry to learn that the suspect had been a party member
between 1999 and 2006 and for several years a leader in its youth movement.
"Those who knew the suspect when he was a member of the party say that he
seemed like a modest person that seldom engaged himself in the political
discussions," she said in a statement on the party's website.
He was also a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi Internet forum named Nordisk.
Nordisk hosts discussions rangingfrom white power music to political
strategies to crush democracy, according to the Stockholm-based Expo
foundation that monitors far-right activity.
Behring Breivik's Facebook profile says he is "conservative", "Christian",
and "single", interested in hunting and video games such as World of
Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2.
On an Internet debate sitewww.document.noin 2009, he expressed his
frustrations with the Progress Party. In their desperate attempt to satisfy
multicultural expectations and "the suicidal ideals of humanism, they have
thrown the baby out with the bath water", he wrote.
He also said he was the manager of an organic farm, Breivik Geofarm, which
would have given him access to raw materials that could be used to make
explosives.
He reportedly bought six tonnes of fertiliser in May, an agriculture
cooperative said.
Tax records, which are open to the public in Norway, show that the suspect
listed no income for 2009 and modest sums in the previous years.
On his Twitter account, Behring Breivik posted only one message, dated July
17, in English adapted from a quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill.
"One person with a belief is equal to a force of 100,000 who have only
interests," he wrote.
Axiomatic with Leftism:

Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.
Jigsaw1695
2011-07-23 16:57:43 UTC
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Post by w***@europe.com
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
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 Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
 Pierre-Henry Deshayes
July 24, 2011 - 1:24AM
 AFP
Police say the Norwegian suspect in the two attacks that left at least 92
dead described himself as a fundamentalist Christian, as evidence emerged
that he had flirted with the political far-right.
The 32-year-old, previously unknown to police, was arrested on Friday after
a bomb blast in central Oslo killed seven people and a shooting rampage at a
youth camp near the capital left at least 85 dead and scores wounded.
Local media have identified him as Anders Behring Breivik, whose picture on
his Facebook page shows a man with longish blonde hair and piercing eyes.
Advertisement: Story continues below
The posting lists his religion as "fundamentalist Christian" and his
political opinions lean "to the right", police said.
"He has certain political traits that lean to the right and are anti-Muslim
but it is too early to say if that was the motive for his actions," police
commissioner Sevinung Sponheim told public television NRK on Saturday.
In less than two hours on Friday the suspect allegedly carried out two
attacks that appeared to target the ruling Labour Party.
The first strike was a bomb attack near the offices of Prime Minister Jens
Stoltenberg and those of other ministers in the heart of Oslo's government
quarter.
In the second attack, about 40km from the capital, the suspect allegedly
masqueraded as a police officer before opening fire on young people
attending an island camp run for Labour's youth wing.
The head of the populist right-wing Progress Party (FrP), Siv Jensen, said
on Saturday she was sorry to learn that the suspect had been a party member
between 1999 and 2006 and for several years a leader in its youth movement.
"Those who knew the suspect when he was a member of the party say that he
seemed like a modest person that seldom engaged himself in the political
discussions," she said in a statement on the party's website.
He was also a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi Internet forum named Nordisk.
Nordisk hosts discussions rangingfrom white power music to political
strategies to crush democracy, according to the Stockholm-based Expo
foundation that monitors far-right activity.
Behring Breivik's Facebook profile says he is "conservative", "Christian",
and "single", interested in hunting and video games such as World of
Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2.
On an Internet debate sitewww.document.noin2009, he expressed his
frustrations with the Progress Party. In their desperate attempt to satisfy
multicultural expectations and "the suicidal ideals of humanism, they have
thrown the baby out with the bath water", he wrote.
He also said he was the manager of an organic farm, Breivik Geofarm, which
would have given him access to raw materials that could be used to make
explosives.
He reportedly bought six tonnes of fertiliser in May, an agriculture
cooperative said.
Tax records, which are open to the public in Norway, show that the suspect
listed no income for 2009 and modest sums in the previous years.
On his Twitter account, Behring Breivik posted only one message, dated July
17, in English adapted from a quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill.
"One person with a belief is equal to a force of 100,000 who have only
interests," he wrote.
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Earl hates all things christian,

Jigsaq
GLOBALIST
2011-07-23 17:18:16 UTC
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PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT SOME TIME TODAY FROM THE KING AND QUEEN OF NORWAY

"Because we are really stupid people we are rejecting our Christian
heritage because of one dumb shit."

[The Christianization of Scandinavia took place between the 8th and
the 12th century]
Earl Evleth
2011-07-23 20:58:53 UTC
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On 23/07/11 18:57, in article
Post by Jigsaw1695
Earl hates all things christian,
Except Christ
Runge 128
2011-07-24 08:55:45 UTC
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evleth loves evleth.

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On 23/07/11 18:57, in article
Post by Jigsaw1695
Earl hates all things christian,
Except Christ
GLOBALIST
2011-07-23 17:05:53 UTC
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Post by w***@europe.com
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
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 Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
 Pierre-Henry Deshayes
July 24, 2011 - 1:24AM
 AFP
Police say the Norwegian suspect in the two attacks that left at least 92
dead described himself as a fundamentalist Christian, as evidence emerged
that he had flirted with the political far-right.
The 32-year-old, previously unknown to police, was arrested on Friday after
a bomb blast in central Oslo killed seven people and a shooting rampage at a
youth camp near the capital left at least 85 dead and scores wounded.
Local media have identified him as Anders Behring Breivik, whose picture on
his Facebook page shows a man with longish blonde hair and piercing eyes.
Advertisement: Story continues below
The posting lists his religion as "fundamentalist Christian" and his
political opinions lean "to the right", police said.
"He has certain political traits that lean to the right and are anti-Muslim
but it is too early to say if that was the motive for his actions," police
commissioner Sevinung Sponheim told public television NRK on Saturday.
In less than two hours on Friday the suspect allegedly carried out two
attacks that appeared to target the ruling Labour Party.
The first strike was a bomb attack near the offices of Prime Minister Jens
Stoltenberg and those of other ministers in the heart of Oslo's government
quarter.
In the second attack, about 40km from the capital, the suspect allegedly
masqueraded as a police officer before opening fire on young people
attending an island camp run for Labour's youth wing.
The head of the populist right-wing Progress Party (FrP), Siv Jensen, said
on Saturday she was sorry to learn that the suspect had been a party member
between 1999 and 2006 and for several years a leader in its youth movement.
"Those who knew the suspect when he was a member of the party say that he
seemed like a modest person that seldom engaged himself in the political
discussions," she said in a statement on the party's website.
He was also a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi Internet forum named Nordisk.
Nordisk hosts discussions rangingfrom white power music to political
strategies to crush democracy, according to the Stockholm-based Expo
foundation that monitors far-right activity.
Behring Breivik's Facebook profile says he is "conservative", "Christian",
and "single", interested in hunting and video games such as World of
Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2.
On an Internet debate sitewww.document.noin2009, he expressed his
frustrations with the Progress Party. In their desperate attempt to satisfy
multicultural expectations and "the suicidal ideals of humanism, they have
thrown the baby out with the bath water", he wrote.
He also said he was the manager of an organic farm, Breivik Geofarm, which
would have given him access to raw materials that could be used to make
explosives.
He reportedly bought six tonnes of fertiliser in May, an agriculture
cooperative said.
Tax records, which are open to the public in Norway, show that the suspect
listed no income for 2009 and modest sums in the previous years.
On his Twitter account, Behring Breivik posted only one message, dated July
17, in English adapted from a quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill.
"One person with a belief is equal to a force of 100,000 who have only
interests," he wrote.
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You can't tell them that..the loud mouth , arrogant atheists just jump
at every straw in the wind to blame religion for all the ills of the
world..while still ignoring that state sponsored atheims murdered
literaly millions in our life time.
And just ignore the fact that the KING and QUEEN of Norway are
Christians.
Jigme Dorje
2011-07-23 23:44:48 UTC
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Post by GLOBALIST
Post by w***@europe.com
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
***
 Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
 Pierre-Henry Deshayes
July 24, 2011 - 1:24AM
 AFP
Police say the Norwegian suspect in the two attacks that left at least 92
dead described himself as a fundamentalist Christian, as evidence emerged
that he had flirted with the political far-right.
The 32-year-old, previously unknown to police, was arrested on Friday after
a bomb blast in central Oslo killed seven people and a shooting rampage at a
youth camp near the capital left at least 85 dead and scores wounded.
Local media have identified him as Anders Behring Breivik, whose picture on
his Facebook page shows a man with longish blonde hair and piercing eyes.
Advertisement: Story continues below
The posting lists his religion as "fundamentalist Christian" and his
political opinions lean "to the right", police said.
"He has certain political traits that lean to the right and are anti-Muslim
but it is too early to say if that was the motive for his actions," police
commissioner Sevinung Sponheim told public television NRK on Saturday.
In less than two hours on Friday the suspect allegedly carried out two
attacks that appeared to target the ruling Labour Party.
The first strike was a bomb attack near the offices of Prime Minister Jens
Stoltenberg and those of other ministers in the heart of Oslo's government
quarter.
In the second attack, about 40km from the capital, the suspect allegedly
masqueraded as a police officer before opening fire on young people
attending an island camp run for Labour's youth wing.
The head of the populist right-wing Progress Party (FrP), Siv Jensen, said
on Saturday she was sorry to learn that the suspect had been a party member
between 1999 and 2006 and for several years a leader in its youth movement.
"Those who knew the suspect when he was a member of the party say that he
seemed like a modest person that seldom engaged himself in the political
discussions," she said in a statement on the party's website.
He was also a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi Internet forum named Nordisk.
Nordisk hosts discussions rangingfrom white power music to political
strategies to crush democracy, according to the Stockholm-based Expo
foundation that monitors far-right activity.
Behring Breivik's Facebook profile says he is "conservative", "Christian",
and "single", interested in hunting and video games such as World of
Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2.
On an Internet debate sitewww.document.noin2009, he expressed his
frustrations with the Progress Party. In their desperate attempt to satisfy
multicultural expectations and "the suicidal ideals of humanism, they have
thrown the baby out with the bath water", he wrote.
He also said he was the manager of an organic farm, Breivik Geofarm, which
would have given him access to raw materials that could be used to make
explosives.
He reportedly bought six tonnes of fertiliser in May, an agriculture
cooperative said.
Tax records, which are open to the public in Norway, show that the suspect
listed no income for 2009 and modest sums in the previous years.
On his Twitter account, Behring Breivik posted only one message, dated July
17, in English adapted from a quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill.
"One person with a belief is equal to a force of 100,000 who have only
interests," he wrote.
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You can't tell them that..the loud mouth , arrogant atheists just jump
at every straw in the wind to blame religion for all the ills of the
world..while still ignoring that state sponsored atheims murdered
literaly millions in our life time.
And just ignore the fact that the KING and QUEEN of Norway are
Christians.
Oh chill both of you. We have to live with each other whether we like
it or not. Find a way to work it out.
Jigme Dorje
2011-07-24 00:08:09 UTC
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Post by Jigme Dorje
Post by GLOBALIST
Post by w***@europe.com
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
***
 Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
 Pierre-Henry Deshayes
July 24, 2011 - 1:24AM
 AFP
Police say the Norwegian suspect in the two attacks that left at least 92
dead described himself as a fundamentalist Christian, as evidence emerged
that he had flirted with the political far-right.
The 32-year-old, previously unknown to police, was arrested on Friday after
a bomb blast in central Oslo killed seven people and a shooting rampage at a
youth camp near the capital left at least 85 dead and scores wounded.
Local media have identified him as Anders Behring Breivik, whose picture on
his Facebook page shows a man with longish blonde hair and piercing eyes.
Advertisement: Story continues below
The posting lists his religion as "fundamentalist Christian" and his
political opinions lean "to the right", police said.
"He has certain political traits that lean to the right and are anti-Muslim
but it is too early to say if that was the motive for his actions," police
commissioner Sevinung Sponheim told public television NRK on Saturday.
In less than two hours on Friday the suspect allegedly carried out two
attacks that appeared to target the ruling Labour Party.
The first strike was a bomb attack near the offices of Prime Minister Jens
Stoltenberg and those of other ministers in the heart of Oslo's government
quarter.
In the second attack, about 40km from the capital, the suspect allegedly
masqueraded as a police officer before opening fire on young people
attending an island camp run for Labour's youth wing.
The head of the populist right-wing Progress Party (FrP), Siv Jensen, said
on Saturday she was sorry to learn that the suspect had been a party member
between 1999 and 2006 and for several years a leader in its youth movement.
"Those who knew the suspect when he was a member of the party say that he
seemed like a modest person that seldom engaged himself in the political
discussions," she said in a statement on the party's website.
He was also a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi Internet forum named Nordisk.
Nordisk hosts discussions rangingfrom white power music to political
strategies to crush democracy, according to the Stockholm-based Expo
foundation that monitors far-right activity.
Behring Breivik's Facebook profile says he is "conservative", "Christian",
and "single", interested in hunting and video games such as World of
Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2.
On an Internet debate sitewww.document.noin2009, he expressed his
frustrations with the Progress Party. In their desperate attempt to satisfy
multicultural expectations and "the suicidal ideals of humanism, they have
thrown the baby out with the bath water", he wrote.
He also said he was the manager of an organic farm, Breivik Geofarm, which
would have given him access to raw materials that could be used to make
explosives.
He reportedly bought six tonnes of fertiliser in May, an agriculture
cooperative said.
Tax records, which are open to the public in Norway, show that the suspect
listed no income for 2009 and modest sums in the previous years.
On his Twitter account, Behring Breivik posted only one message, dated July
17, in English adapted from a quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill.
"One person with a belief is equal to a force of 100,000 who have only
interests," he wrote.
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You can't tell them that..the loud mouth , arrogant atheists just jump
at every straw in the wind to blame religion for all the ills of the
world..while still ignoring that state sponsored atheims murdered
literaly millions in our life time.
And just ignore the fact that the KING and QUEEN of Norway are
Christians.
Oh chill both of you. We have to live with each other whether we like
it or not. Find a way to work it out.
...unless you missed the lesson of this altogether.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-23 20:57:48 UTC
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On 23/07/11 18:54, in article
Post by w***@europe.com
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.
Also the other way around!
Runge 128
2011-07-23 22:03:05 UTC
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evleth the unintellectual terrorist.


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On 23/07/11 18:54, in article
Post by w***@europe.com
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.
Also the other way around!
Earl Evleth
2011-07-24 06:19:38 UTC
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On 23/07/11 18:54, in article
Post by w***@europe.com
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
Runge 128
2011-07-24 08:56:17 UTC
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evleth is our damnation.

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On 23/07/11 18:54, in article
Post by w***@europe.com
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
John Rennie
2011-07-24 09:41:27 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
On 23/07/11 18:54, in article
Post by w***@europe.com
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
And you equate the above with mass killings, Earl?
Earl Evleth
2011-07-24 10:07:22 UTC
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Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
And you equate the above with mass killings, Earl?
Not now but it occurs now and then with religiously inspired
individual mass killings. Obviously we also get collective
mass killings of a religious group by another, as in the
case of St. Bartholomew's Day in France 1572.

"Throughout Europe, it "printed on Protestant minds the indelible conviction
that Catholicism was a bloody and treacherous religion"


What individuals do is steal authority from various
sources a psychological fuel. For a narcissitic individual
these are tools and not ends in themselves. But I think
most religions are themselves arcissitic if the think
they provide the only true path.

This is why I don't say the guy is "crazy". He suffers from a
personality disorder. The causes are not some pathological
brain disorder.

"Some narcissistic traits are common and a normal developmental phase. When
these traits are compounded by a failure of the interpersonal environment
and continue into adulthood, they may intensify to the point where NPD is
diagnosed."

Some call it arrested emotional development leaving the individual
in a emotional adolescent state.
John Rennie
2011-07-24 10:24:27 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
And you equate the above with mass killings, Earl?
Not now but it occurs now and then with religiously inspired
individual mass killings. Obviously we also get collective
mass killings of a religious group by another, as in the
case of St. Bartholomew's Day in France 1572.
"Throughout Europe, it "printed on Protestant minds the indelible conviction
that Catholicism was a bloody and treacherous religion"
What individuals do is steal authority from various
sources a psychological fuel. For a narcissitic individual
these are tools and not ends in themselves. But I think
most religions are themselves arcissitic if the think
they provide the only true path.
This is why I don't say the guy is "crazy". He suffers from a
personality disorder. The causes are not some pathological
brain disorder.
"Some narcissistic traits are common and a normal developmental phase. When
these traits are compounded by a failure of the interpersonal environment
and continue into adulthood, they may intensify to the point where NPD is
diagnosed."
Some call it arrested emotional development leaving the individual
in a emotional adolescent state.
Well you have retreated over 400 years to find an example which
tends to make my point. Frankly the best examples of mass killings
in the 20th Century can be blamed on Nazism and Communism i.e.
political extremism not religious although 9/11 may be cited
as a religious massacre.
Runge 128
2011-07-24 10:38:21 UTC
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old rennie is happy happy the evleths are back !!
On 24/07/11 11:41, in article
Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
And you equate the above with mass killings, Earl?
Not now but it occurs now and then with religiously inspired
individual mass killings. Obviously we also get collective
mass killings of a religious group by another, as in the
case of St. Bartholomew's Day in France 1572.
"Throughout Europe, it "printed on Protestant minds the indelible conviction
that Catholicism was a bloody and treacherous religion"
What individuals do is steal authority from various
sources a psychological fuel. For a narcissitic individual
these are tools and not ends in themselves. But I think
most religions are themselves arcissitic if the think
they provide the only true path.
This is why I don't say the guy is "crazy". He suffers from a
personality disorder. The causes are not some pathological
brain disorder.
"Some narcissistic traits are common and a normal developmental phase. When
these traits are compounded by a failure of the interpersonal environment
and continue into adulthood, they may intensify to the point where NPD is
diagnosed."
Some call it arrested emotional development leaving the individual
in a emotional adolescent state.
Well you have retreated over 400 years to find an example which
tends to make my point. Frankly the best examples of mass killings
in the 20th Century can be blamed on Nazism and Communism i.e.
political extremism not religious although 9/11 may be cited
as a religious massacre.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-24 10:42:36 UTC
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Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
And you equate the above with mass killings, Earl?
Not now but it occurs now and then with religiously inspired
individual mass killings. Obviously we also get collective
mass killings of a religious group by another, as in the
case of St. Bartholomew's Day in France 1572.
"Throughout Europe, it "printed on Protestant minds the indelible conviction
that Catholicism was a bloody and treacherous religion"
What individuals do is steal authority from various
sources a psychological fuel. For a narcissitic individual
these are tools and not ends in themselves. But I think
most religions are themselves arcissitic if the think
they provide the only true path.
This is why I don't say the guy is "crazy". He suffers from a
personality disorder. The causes are not some pathological
brain disorder.
"Some narcissistic traits are common and a normal developmental phase. When
these traits are compounded by a failure of the interpersonal environment
and continue into adulthood, they may intensify to the point where NPD is
diagnosed."
Some call it arrested emotional development leaving the individual
in a emotional adolescent state.
Well you have retreated over 400 years to find an example which
tends to make my point. Frankly the best examples of mass killings
in the 20th Century can be blamed on Nazism and Communism i.e.
political extremism not religious although 9/11 may be cited
as a religious massacre.
I would have no problem with defining other beliefs as arcissitic

how about my other points on narcissism in the case of the Norwegian?
Bill Bonde
2011-07-25 14:54:05 UTC
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Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
And you equate the above with mass killings, Earl?
Not now but it occurs now and then with religiously inspired
individual mass killings. Obviously we also get collective
mass killings of a religious group by another, as in the
case of St. Bartholomew's Day in France 1572.
"Throughout Europe, it "printed on Protestant minds the indelible conviction
that Catholicism was a bloody and treacherous religion"
What individuals do is steal authority from various
sources a psychological fuel. For a narcissitic individual
these are tools and not ends in themselves. But I think
most religions are themselves arcissitic if the think
they provide the only true path.
This is why I don't say the guy is "crazy". He suffers from a
personality disorder. The causes are not some pathological
brain disorder.
"Some narcissistic traits are common and a normal developmental phase. When
these traits are compounded by a failure of the interpersonal environment
and continue into adulthood, they may intensify to the point where NPD is
diagnosed."
Some call it arrested emotional development leaving the individual
in a emotional adolescent state.
political extremism not religious although 9/11 may be cited
as a religious massacre.
I would have no problem with defining other beliefs as arcissitic
how about my other points on narcissism in the case of the Norwegian?
What points? I see an unattributed quote.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-25 17:50:34 UTC
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Post by Bill Bonde
What points? I see an unattributed quote.
Read below



Breivik : un solitaire narcissique devenu un assassin sans pitié

JEAN-MARC DUCOS | Publié le 24.07.2011, 00h00


Il aura réussi à devenir célèbre malgré tout… Tristement. En usant de la
violence la plus gratuite. Anders Behring Breivik, 32 ans, le regard bleu
acier, les cheveux blonds de Viking, une solide carrure de skieur, a déjà sa
page personnelle dans l’encyclopédie universelle Wikipédia sur Internet. Le
« Massacreur d’Utoya », comme l’appelle déjà la presse norvégienne, présente
une personnalité complexe et contradictoire.

solitaire devenu un assassin méthodique et sans pitié.
Cet homme au look de gendre idéal, ou presque, se définit sur le réseau
social Facebook comme un « chrétien conservateur », un protestant en
croisade, mais aussi un fan de « Conan le Barbare » et de la série de
télévision « Dexter », narrant les états d’âme d’un expert médico-légal
tueur en série à ses heures perdues. Breivik admire par-dessus tout l’ancien
Premier ministre britannique Winston Churchill, ainsi que le héros national
norvégien, Max Manus, célèbre pour ses opérations de sabotage contre
l’occupant nazi.
Anders Behring Breivik affichait pourtant des opinions très tranchées sur
son opposition farouche au « multiculturalisme qui mine la Norvège » sur un
forum Internet d’extrême droite. Sur ce même site, où il consignait des
notes, il met dans un même sac « l’Islam qui a provoqué la mort de 300
millions de personnes », « le Communisme qui en a tué 100 millions » et « le
Nazisme responsable de 6 à 20 millions de morts ». Toujours sur le net,
Breivik a déposé 75 commentaires très hostiles à l’Islam. Et notamment en
décembre 2009, ce message assurant qu’il « n’existe pas un seul pays au
monde où les Musulmans ont réussi à vivre pacifiquement avec des
non-musulmans ».
Au-delà de sa personnalité confuse et brouillée, le jeune homme,
célibataire, un peu falot selon la presse du royaume scandinave, vivait avec
sa mère dans la ville de Rena après avoir quitté, il y a un mois,
l’appartement d’Oslo, où il a toujours résidé. C’est dans la capitale qu’il
a fondé, en 2009, une ferme biologique spécialisée dans la culture des
légumes et des melons. Une société officiellement sans activité ou presque,
car il n’a déclaré aucun revenu au fisc, selon les documents accessibles en
ligne en Norvège. Ses comptes bancaires abriteraient pourtant de
confortables sommes d’argent estimées à 40000 €.
C’est à Oslo toujours que Breivik a fréquenté le lycée Handels avant
d’entamer des études de commerce à l’Oslo School of Management. Il prétend
avoir suivi plus de « 14 500 heures » de cours sur sa page Facebook,
véritable miroir de son narcissisme, où il vante aussi son attrait pour le
culturisme, qu’il pratique assidûment pour sculpter son corps, et sa
véritable passion de la chasse. Il s’affiche aussi sur des photographies,
très élégamment vêtu, ou bien en tenue plus décontractée. Sans oublier ce
cliché en costume de cérémonie maçonnique, et portant le tablier avec
compas. Rien, en revanche, sur une vie amoureuse ou sur son enfance ne
semble transparaître. Deux mentions font référence à son addiction pour le
jeu vidéo World of Warcraft, un jeu de rôle sur un thème moyenâgeux
fantastique. Et un autre pour Modern Warfare, complot militaire où
s’opposent marines américains et troupes russes.
Une certitude : très jeune, Breivik a rejoint les rangs du Parti du progrès
(FrP), classé à l’extrême droite. Un parti populaire qu’il a rejoint en
1997, à 18 ans, et dont il a payé la cotisation jusqu’en 2004. Il a même
dirigé la section des jeunes dans son quartier. Selon la presse norvégienne,
il rompt avec cette formation jugée trop consensuelle. Hier, les enquêteurs
estimaient qu’il avait préparé son carnage pendant plusieurs années avant de
passer à l’acte.
Bill Bonde
2011-07-29 16:01:16 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Post by Bill Bonde
What points? I see an unattributed quote.
Read below
Earl is cornered, switches to French, also unattributed.....
Post by Earl Evleth
Breivik : un solitaire narcissique devenu un assassin sans pitié
JEAN-MARC DUCOS | Publié le 24.07.2011, 00h00
Il aura réussi à devenir célèbre malgré tout… Tristement. En usant de la
violence la plus gratuite. Anders Behring Breivik, 32 ans, le regard bleu
acier, les cheveux blonds de Viking, une solide carrure de skieur, a déjà sa
page personnelle dans l’encyclopédie universelle Wikipédia sur Internet. Le
« Massacreur d’Utoya », comme l’appelle déjà la presse norvégienne, présente
une personnalité complexe et contradictoire.
solitaire devenu un assassin méthodique et sans pitié.
Cet homme au look de gendre idéal, ou presque, se définit sur le réseau
social Facebook comme un « chrétien conservateur », un protestant en
croisade, mais aussi un fan de « Conan le Barbare » et de la série de
télévision « Dexter », narrant les états d’âme d’un expert médico-légal
tueur en série à ses heures perdues. Breivik admire par-dessus tout l’ancien
Premier ministre britannique Winston Churchill, ainsi que le héros national
norvégien, Max Manus, célèbre pour ses opérations de sabotage contre
l’occupant nazi.
Anders Behring Breivik affichait pourtant des opinions très tranchées sur
son opposition farouche au « multiculturalisme qui mine la Norvège » sur un
forum Internet d’extrême droite. Sur ce même site, où il consignait des
notes, il met dans un même sac « l’Islam qui a provoqué la mort de 300
millions de personnes », « le Communisme qui en a tué 100 millions » et « le
Nazisme responsable de 6 à 20 millions de morts ». Toujours sur le net,
Breivik a déposé 75 commentaires très hostiles à l’Islam. Et notamment en
décembre 2009, ce message assurant qu’il « n’existe pas un seul pays au
monde où les Musulmans ont réussi à vivre pacifiquement avec des
non-musulmans ».
Au-delà de sa personnalité confuse et brouillée, le jeune homme,
célibataire, un peu falot selon la presse du royaume scandinave, vivait avec
sa mère dans la ville de Rena après avoir quitté, il y a un mois,
l’appartement d’Oslo, où il a toujours résidé. C’est dans la capitale qu’il
a fondé, en 2009, une ferme biologique spécialisée dans la culture des
légumes et des melons. Une société officiellement sans activité ou presque,
car il n’a déclaré aucun revenu au fisc, selon les documents accessibles en
ligne en Norvège. Ses comptes bancaires abriteraient pourtant de
confortables sommes d’argent estimées à 40000 €.
C’est à Oslo toujours que Breivik a fréquenté le lycée Handels avant
d’entamer des études de commerce à l’Oslo School of Management. Il prétend
avoir suivi plus de « 14 500 heures » de cours sur sa page Facebook,
véritable miroir de son narcissisme, où il vante aussi son attrait pour le
culturisme, qu’il pratique assidûment pour sculpter son corps, et sa
véritable passion de la chasse. Il s’affiche aussi sur des photographies,
très élégamment vêtu, ou bien en tenue plus décontractée. Sans oublier ce
cliché en costume de cérémonie maçonnique, et portant le tablier avec
compas. Rien, en revanche, sur une vie amoureuse ou sur son enfance ne
semble transparaître. Deux mentions font référence à son addiction pour le
jeu vidéo World of Warcraft, un jeu de rôle sur un thème moyenâgeux
fantastique. Et un autre pour Modern Warfare, complot militaire où
s’opposent marines américains et troupes russes.
Une certitude : très jeune, Breivik a rejoint les rangs du Parti du progrès
(FrP), classé à l’extrême droite. Un parti populaire qu’il a rejoint en
1997, à 18 ans, et dont il a payé la cotisation jusqu’en 2004. Il a même
dirigé la section des jeunes dans son quartier. Selon la presse norvégienne,
il rompt avec cette formation jugée trop consensuelle. Hier, les enquêteurs
estimaient qu’il avait préparé son carnage pendant plusieurs années avant de
passer à l’acte.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-29 16:18:34 UTC
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Post by Bill Bonde
Earl is cornered, switches to French, also unattributed.....
It was the only press which discussed narcissism.
The term was employed in Le Monde, the article
I posted was from another paper.

Do you understand French?
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-29 16:43:21 UTC
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Shut the fuck up, Earl.

Y.
John Rennie
2011-07-29 17:45:10 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Post by Bill Bonde
Earl is cornered, switches to French, also unattributed.....
It was the only press which discussed narcissism.
The term was employed in Le Monde, the article
I posted was from another paper.
Do you understand French?
He doesn't understand English.

Bill Bonde
2011-07-25 14:00:37 UTC
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Post by John Rennie
On 24/07/11 11:41, in article
Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
And you equate the above with mass killings, Earl?
Not now but it occurs now and then with religiously inspired
individual mass killings. Obviously we also get collective
mass killings of a religious group by another, as in the
case of St. Bartholomew's Day in France 1572.
"Throughout Europe, it "printed on Protestant minds the indelible conviction
that Catholicism was a bloody and treacherous religion"
What individuals do is steal authority from various
sources a psychological fuel. For a narcissitic individual
these are tools and not ends in themselves. But I think
most religions are themselves arcissitic if the think
they provide the only true path.
This is why I don't say the guy is "crazy". He suffers from a
personality disorder. The causes are not some pathological
brain disorder.
"Some narcissistic traits are common and a normal developmental phase. When
these traits are compounded by a failure of the interpersonal environment
and continue into adulthood, they may intensify to the point where NPD is
diagnosed."
Some call it arrested emotional development leaving the individual
in a emotional adolescent state.
Well you have retreated over 400 years to find an example which
tends to make my point. Frankly the best examples of mass killings
in the 20th Century can be blamed on Nazism and Communism i.e.
political extremism not religious although 9/11 may be cited
as a religious massacre.
Communism even claimed to be atheistic. Blaming the evil acts of man on
religion is a mistake, man is unfortunately often plenty evil without
any help from gods.
hls
2011-07-24 23:32:04 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
This is why I don't say the guy is "crazy". He suffers from a
personality disorder. The causes are not some pathological
brain disorder.
I guess it hurts a little less when you are shot by someone with
a personality disorder than when you are shot by a nutter or
a sociopath....That gives me great comfort
Bill Bonde
2011-07-25 07:26:19 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
On 23/07/11 18:54, in article
Post by w***@europe.com
Not all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists but all fundamentalist
Christians are terrorists.
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
If by "terrorize" you mean just tell you their views and their good news
solutions.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-25 11:40:18 UTC
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Post by Bill Bonde
Post by Earl Evleth
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
If by "terrorize" you mean just tell you their views and their good news
solutions.
I thought I told you what I meant. The image of Hell and eternal damnation
was a key theme in Christianity. Many a painting had as a major them
the descent into hell.

That is terrorism
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-25 11:42:49 UTC
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Shut the fuck up, Earl.

Y.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-25 13:18:35 UTC
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Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Shut the fuck up, Earl.
Y.
Foul mouth = no brains
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-25 13:25:37 UTC
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Shut the fuck up, Earl.

Y.
William Robert
2011-07-25 15:30:19 UTC
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Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Shut the fuck up, Earl.
Y.
Well said!

William Robert
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-25 15:31:34 UTC
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Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Shut the fuck up, Earl.
Well said!
William Robert
Welcome back, Don! You still 'an engineer' ?

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by G-d
Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its
legitimacy' (Golda Meir (1898 - 1978))
William Robert
2011-07-25 17:04:50 UTC
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Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Shut the fuck up, Earl.
Well said!
William Robert
Welcome back, Don! You still 'an engineer' ?
I'm retired. You?

William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Y.
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-25 17:10:38 UTC
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Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Shut the fuck up, Earl.
Well said!
William Robert
Welcome back, Don! You still 'an engineer' ?
I'm retired. You?
Teaching.

Lots of changes on AADP since you were last here. PV and I have buried
the hatchet. Earl has become a bitter old anti-Semite. Rennie is close
to death (but not close enough).

How's tricks?

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by G-d
Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its
legitimacy' (Golda Meir (1898 - 1978))
William Robert
2011-07-25 20:02:54 UTC
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Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Shut the fuck up, Earl.
Well said!
William Robert
Welcome back, Don! You still 'an engineer' ?
I'm retired. You?
Teaching.
Lots of changes on AADP since you were last here. PV and I have buried
the hatchet.
Can Armageddon be far behind?
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Earl has become a bitter old anti-Semite. Rennie is close
to death (but not close enough).
Earl has always seemed crotchety. I'll have to reserve judgement on
John as I don't know the back story.

I do hope both are in good health.
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
How's tricks?
Spend much of our time on the sailboat. Can get internet through the
sat phone but I don't bother with the Usenet part.We're home for
awhile and I just dropped by to see what was going on.

In the 15+ years since we first crossed paths, things have gotten even
more fracked-up in the world.

William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Y.
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-25 20:08:37 UTC
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Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Shut the fuck up, Earl.
Well said!
William Robert
Welcome back, Don! You still 'an engineer' ?
I'm retired. You?
Teaching.
Lots of changes on AADP since you were last here. PV and I have buried
the hatchet.
Can Armageddon be far behind?
One hopes not.
Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Earl has become a bitter old anti-Semite. Rennie is close
to death (but not close enough).
Earl has always seemed crotchety. I'll have to reserve judgement on
John as I don't know the back story.
I do hope both are in good health.
Earl is quite ill. G-d's vengeance is not pretty to behold. Rennie is
proof that 'only the good die young'.
Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
How's tricks?
Spend much of our time on the sailboat. Can get internet through the
sat phone but I don't bother with the Usenet part.We're home for
awhile and I just dropped by to see what was going on.
I can't help but think that Usenet is dying.
Post by William Robert
In the 15+ years since we first crossed paths, things have gotten even
more fracked-up in the world.
Ain't dat da troof?

Who'd have thought that we'd one day be sitting here chatting civilly?

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by G-d
Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its
legitimacy' (Golda Meir (1898 - 1978))
William Robert
2011-07-25 23:43:05 UTC
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Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by William Robert
Earl has always seemed crotchety. I'll have to reserve judgement on
John as I don't know the back story.
I do hope both are in good health.
Earl is quite ill. G-d's vengeance is not pretty to behold. Rennie is
proof that 'only the good die young'.
Few of us die with grace.
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
I can't help but think that Usenet is dying.
Most don't even know what Usenet is. I don't know of anyone releasing
any new newsreaders.
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Who'd have thought that we'd one day be sitting here chatting civilly?
We started in a relatively civil manner. Then...

Why the new persona?

William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Y.
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-27 17:55:59 UTC
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Post by William Robert
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Who'd have thought that we'd one day be sitting here chatting civilly?
We started in a relatively civil manner. Then...
We did?

What a waste of time and energy all that arguing was, eh ?

You should stick around, although to be honest, if you're into
discussing the death penalty, this is no longer the place to do it.
Post by William Robert
Why the new persona?
'back to roots'. :-)

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by G-d
Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its
legitimacy' (Golda Meir (1898 - 1978))
Runge 128
2011-07-25 19:21:36 UTC
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send evleth to Sodome !
Post by Bill Bonde
Post by Earl Evleth
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
If by "terrorize" you mean just tell you their views and their good news
solutions.
I thought I told you what I meant. The image of Hell and eternal damnation
was a key theme in Christianity. Many a painting had as a major them
the descent into hell.

That is terrorism
Bill Bonde
2011-07-25 22:10:54 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Post by Bill Bonde
Post by Earl Evleth
All religious fundamentalists of whatever ilk will terrorize others
about going to hell, eternal damnation etc.
If by "terrorize" you mean just tell you their views and their good news
solutions.
I thought I told you what I meant. The image of Hell and eternal damnation
was a key theme in Christianity. Many a painting had as a major them
the descent into hell.
That is terrorism
That belittles what real terrorism is. If you are "terrorized" by a
painting, Earl, you need some help.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-26 06:17:25 UTC
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Post by Bill Bonde
That belittles what real terrorism is.
The Crusades were fueled by the terrorism of the Cburch
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-26 09:03:08 UTC
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Shut the fuck up, Earl.

Y.
Runge 128
2011-07-26 18:06:35 UTC
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evleth the terrorist of this ng
Post by Bill Bonde
That belittles what real terrorism is.
The Crusades were fueled by the terrorism of the Cburch
Bill Bonde
2011-07-23 22:40:39 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
It does not, Earl. From your infra material:

#begin quote
Post by Earl Evleth
"Those who knew the suspect when he was a member of the party say that he
seemed like a modest person that seldom engaged himself in the political
discussions," she said in a statement on the party's website.
#end quote

People who are not open in their views, don't discuss what they are,
could have really scary views, how can we know?
Post by Earl Evleth
***
Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
Pierre-Henry Deshayes
July 24, 2011 - 1:24AM
AFP
Police say the Norwegian suspect in the two attacks that left at least 92
dead described himself as a fundamentalist Christian, as evidence emerged
that he had flirted with the political far-right.
The 32-year-old, previously unknown to police, was arrested on Friday after
a bomb blast in central Oslo killed seven people and a shooting rampage at a
youth camp near the capital left at least 85 dead and scores wounded.
Local media have identified him as Anders Behring Breivik, whose picture on
his Facebook page shows a man with longish blonde hair and piercing eyes.
Advertisement: Story continues below
The posting lists his religion as "fundamentalist Christian" and his
political opinions lean "to the right", police said.
"He has certain political traits that lean to the right and are anti-Muslim
but it is too early to say if that was the motive for his actions," police
commissioner Sevinung Sponheim told public television NRK on Saturday.
In less than two hours on Friday the suspect allegedly carried out two
attacks that appeared to target the ruling Labour Party.
The first strike was a bomb attack near the offices of Prime Minister Jens
Stoltenberg and those of other ministers in the heart of Oslo's government
quarter.
In the second attack, about 40km from the capital, the suspect allegedly
masqueraded as a police officer before opening fire on young people
attending an island camp run for Labour's youth wing.
The head of the populist right-wing Progress Party (FrP), Siv Jensen, said
on Saturday she was sorry to learn that the suspect had been a party member
between 1999 and 2006 and for several years a leader in its youth movement.
"Those who knew the suspect when he was a member of the party say that he
seemed like a modest person that seldom engaged himself in the political
discussions," she said in a statement on the party's website.
He was also a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi Internet forum named Nordisk.
Nordisk hosts discussions rangingfrom white power music to political
strategies to crush democracy, according to the Stockholm-based Expo
foundation that monitors far-right activity.
Behring Breivik's Facebook profile says he is "conservative", "Christian",
and "single", interested in hunting and video games such as World of
Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2.
On an Internet debate site www.document.no in 2009, he expressed his
frustrations with the Progress Party. In their desperate attempt to satisfy
multicultural expectations and "the suicidal ideals of humanism, they have
thrown the baby out with the bath water", he wrote.
He also said he was the manager of an organic farm, Breivik Geofarm, which
would have given him access to raw materials that could be used to make
explosives.
He reportedly bought six tonnes of fertiliser in May, an agriculture
cooperative said.
Tax records, which are open to the public in Norway, show that the suspect
listed no income for 2009 and modest sums in the previous years.
On his Twitter account, Behring Breivik posted only one message, dated July
17, in English adapted from a quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill.
"One person with a belief is equal to a force of 100,000 who have only
interests," he wrote.
Planet Visitor II
2011-07-24 05:31:52 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
***
Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
Pierre-Henry Deshayes
July 24, 2011 - 1:24AM
It goes with the territory.

MOGADISHU, Somalia - Al Qaeda-linked Muslim militants in Somalia vowed to keep most international aid workers
out of the country despite a worsening famine, and the UN warned yesterday that 800,000 children could die in
the region from starvation. See --
http://www.boston.com/news/world/africa/articles/2011/07/23/somali_militants_vow_to_block_aid_groups/


Planet Visitor II
Earl Evleth
2011-07-24 06:12:50 UTC
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MOGADISHU, Somalia
this is about Norway, your geography is way off.

Get an Atlas and study it, son.
Runge 128
2011-07-24 08:56:56 UTC
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When evleth calls you son, he believes he is superior.
Post by Planet Visitor II
MOGADISHU, Somalia
this is about Norway, your geography is way off.

Get an Atlas and study it, son.
Planet Visitor II
2011-07-25 03:31:53 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Post by Planet Visitor II
MOGADISHU, Somalia
this is about Norway, your geography is way off.
Get an Atlas and study it, son.
I get it... starving humans are irrelevant to you... if they're Black!!!


Planet Visitor II
Bill Bonde
2011-07-29 16:05:08 UTC
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Post by Planet Visitor II
MOGADISHU, Somalia
this is about Norway, your geography is way off.
Get an Atlas and study it, son.
The Atlas Mts.?
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-24 14:39:14 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
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Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian'
Pierre-Henry Deshayes
July 24, 2011 - 1:24AM
It goes with the territory.
How about from now on, everyone on the group respond to _every_ one of
Earl's inane posts with one line -

'Shut the fuck up, Earl'

Reichstag Rennie won't do it, and I don't expect Donna to do so, either.
But if the rest of us respond to every word he writes with a salutatory
slap on his bigoted, arrogant face, he might get the message.

Y.
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by G-d
Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its
legitimacy' (Golda Meir (1898 - 1978))
Earl Evleth
2011-07-24 20:22:40 UTC
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Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
How about from now on, everyone on the group respond to _every_ one of
Earl's inane posts with one line -
'Shut the fuck up, Earl'
that goes with the territory.
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-24 20:39:33 UTC
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Shut the fuck up, Earl'
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by G-d
Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its
legitimacy' (Golda Meir (1898 - 1978))
GlennR
2011-07-25 06:53:08 UTC
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tote your filthy, little blonde girl molesting ass on out of here, you're stinkin
the place up


got any little boys stuffed in your freezer ??



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: Shut the fuck up, Earl'
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: Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
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: Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its
: legitimacy' (Golda Meir (1898 - 1978))
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John Rennie
2011-07-24 21:01:17 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
How about from now on, everyone on the group respond to _every_ one of
Earl's inane posts with one line -
'Shut the fuck up, Earl'
that goes with the territory.
How about everybody ignoring Desmond? Oh they do! Well that's all
right then.
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2011-07-24 21:11:41 UTC
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Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
How about from now on, everyone on the group respond to _every_ one of
Earl's inane posts with one line -
'Shut the fuck up, Earl'
that goes with the territory.
How about everybody ignoring Desmond? Oh they do! Well that's all
right then.
Who is 'Desmond', Reichstag Rennie ?

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by G-d
Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its
legitimacy' (Golda Meir (1898 - 1978))
Runge 128
2011-07-25 06:35:02 UTC
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or ignore rennie with his posting of links without any comment...
Post by Earl Evleth
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
How about from now on, everyone on the group respond to _every_ one of
Earl's inane posts with one line -
'Shut the fuck up, Earl'
that goes with the territory.
How about everybody ignoring Desmond? Oh they do! Well that's all
right then.
Runge 128
2011-07-24 21:24:05 UTC
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I don't call him earl, he is not a close friend.
evleth go home !
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by Earl Evleth
It goes with the territory.
How about from now on, everyone on the group respond to _every_ one of
Earl's inane posts with one line -
'Shut the fuck up, Earl'
that goes with the territory.
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