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Massacre suspect is Norwegian
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Earl Evleth
2011-07-23 06:56:43 UTC
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Massacre suspect is Norwegian
July 23, 2011  
After great speculation that Norway had been hit by terrorist attacks on
Friday, police confirmed that the suspect they arrested is a 32-year-old
ethnic Norwegian. It remained unclear late Friday night whether he was
acting alone, or had ties to a terrorist organization. Speculation was
rising that he¹s linked to right-wing extremists, not Islamic terrorists.
Police suspect the same man is behind both the massacre at the Labour
Party's summer camp and the bombing that severely damaged many government
and commercial buildings in Oslo Friday afternoon. PHOTO: NRK/Views and News
Justice Minister Knut Storberget confirmed that police were holding a
suspect, charged with gunning down many members of the Labour Party¹s youth
organization AUF (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking) who were attending their
annual youth summer camp on an island in the Tyri Fjord.
Neither Storberget nor police, however, would reveal more details about the
suspect. They would not identify him nor say whether he had a criminal
record, although the website for newspaper VG identified him as Anders
Behring Breivik, age 32, a self-described nationalist with no criminal
record who was opposed to Islam and to a multi-cultural society. VG and
Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported that police were raiding the suspect¹s
home in west Oslo Friday night.
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex¹s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
Sveinung Sponheim, acting chief of police Oslo, told reporters late Friday
night that police still had no motive for either the bombing or the
shootings at the summer camp on the island of Utøya. Sponheim said he was
not sure how the man got from downtown to the island nor do they have a
motive for the shootings. He said, however, that the suspect had indicated
he was willing to undergo questioning by the police.
Professor Tore Bjørgo of Oslo¹s police academy said the suspect could be
tied to right-wing extremists with a grudge against the left-wing Labour
Party.
Death toll due to rise
Police confirmed that 10 people were killed during the shooting. More than
600 AUF members were at the camp on Friday and many had assembled for an
information session on the bombing in Oslo. The suspect reportedly arrived
on the island dressed in a police uniform, and then started shooting.
Witnesses described a horrific situation of seeing fellow campers, many of
them teenagers, gunned down before their eyes along the waterfront. Others
ran for shelter and tried to hide behind rocks and trees. Still others made
a desperate attempt to flee by swimming in the fjord¹s chilly waters to the
mainland, but some of them were reportedly shot as they tried to swim away.
One witness has described seeing as many as 30 bodies in the water, but
police would not confirm the number. Sponheim said, however, that they had
reason to believe the death toll from Utøya would rise during the night. He
said investigators found explosives on the island that had not been
detonated, and indicated that more bodies were being discovered as well.
w***@europe.com
2011-07-23 09:06:13 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
July 23, 2011
After great speculation that Norway had been hit by terrorist attacks on
Friday, police confirmed that the suspect they arrested is a 32-year-old
ethnic Norwegian. It remained unclear late Friday night whether he was
acting alone, or had ties to a terrorist organization. Speculation was
rising that he s linked to right-wing extremists, not Islamic terrorists.
Police suspect the same man is behind both the massacre at the Labour
Party's summer camp and the bombing that severely damaged many government
and commercial buildings in Oslo Friday afternoon. PHOTO: NRK/Views and News
Justice Minister Knut Storberget confirmed that police were holding a
suspect, charged with gunning down many members of the Labour Party s youth
organization AUF (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking) who were attending their
annual youth summer camp on an island in the Tyri Fjord.
Neither Storberget nor police, however, would reveal more details about the
suspect. They would not identify him nor say whether he had a criminal
record, although the website for newspaper VG identified him as Anders
Behring Breivik, age 32, a self-described nationalist with no criminal
record who was opposed to Islam and to a multi-cultural society. VG and
Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported that police were raiding the suspect s
home in west Oslo Friday night.
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
Sveinung Sponheim, acting chief of police Oslo, told reporters late Friday
night that police still had no motive for either the bombing or the
shootings at the summer camp on the island of Ut ya. Sponheim said he was
not sure how the man got from downtown to the island nor do they have a
motive for the shootings. He said, however, that the suspect had indicated
he was willing to undergo questioning by the police.
Professor Tore Bj rgo of Oslo s police academy said the suspect could be
tied to right-wing extremists with a grudge against the left-wing Labour
Party.
Death toll due to rise
 Police confirmed that 10 people were killed during the shooting. More than
600 AUF members were at the camp on Friday and many had assembled for an
information session on the bombing in Oslo. The suspect reportedly arrived
on the island dressed in a police uniform, and then started shooting.
Witnesses described a horrific situation of seeing fellow campers, many of
them teenagers, gunned down before their eyes along the waterfront. Others
ran for shelter and tried to hide behind rocks and trees. Still others made
a desperate attempt to flee by swimming in the fjord s chilly waters to the
mainland, but some of them were reportedly shot as they tried to swim away.
One witness has described seeing as many as 30 bodies in the water, but
police would not confirm the number. Sponheim said, however, that they had
reason to believe the death toll from Ut ya would rise during the night. He
said investigators found explosives on the island that had not been
detonated, and indicated that more bodies were being discovered as well.
Predictable responses to this very same news article covering this
tragedy:

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peacelove says:
July 23, 2011 at 3:49 am

Sorry that America seems to exported its right wing, tea bag hatred.
So sorry to see such violence by a right wing extremist in such a
peaceful country.
Reply

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Abby in Sugar Land says:
July 23, 2011 at 4:40 am

Why would you use this tragedy to export your left wing hatred?
That’s sick.
w***@europe.com
2011-07-23 09:16:46 UTC
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Post by w***@europe.com
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
July 23, 2011
After great speculation that Norway had been hit by terrorist attacks on
Friday, police confirmed that the suspect they arrested is a 32-year-old
ethnic Norwegian. It remained unclear late Friday night whether he was
acting alone, or had ties to a terrorist organization. Speculation was
rising that he s linked to right-wing extremists, not Islamic terrorists.
Police suspect the same man is behind both the massacre at the Labour
Party's summer camp and the bombing that severely damaged many government
and commercial buildings in Oslo Friday afternoon. PHOTO: NRK/Views and News
Justice Minister Knut Storberget confirmed that police were holding a
suspect, charged with gunning down many members of the Labour Party s youth
organization AUF (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking) who were attending their
annual youth summer camp on an island in the Tyri Fjord.
Neither Storberget nor police, however, would reveal more details about the
suspect. They would not identify him nor say whether he had a criminal
record, although the website for newspaper VG identified him as Anders
Behring Breivik, age 32, a self-described nationalist with no criminal
record who was opposed to Islam and to a multi-cultural society. VG and
Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported that police were raiding the suspect s
home in west Oslo Friday night.
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
Sveinung Sponheim, acting chief of police Oslo, told reporters late Friday
night that police still had no motive for either the bombing or the
shootings at the summer camp on the island of Ut ya. Sponheim said he was
not sure how the man got from downtown to the island nor do they have a
motive for the shootings. He said, however, that the suspect had indicated
he was willing to undergo questioning by the police.
Professor Tore Bj rgo of Oslo s police academy said the suspect could be
tied to right-wing extremists with a grudge against the left-wing Labour
Party.
Death toll due to rise
 Police confirmed that 10 people were killed during the shooting. More than
600 AUF members were at the camp on Friday and many had assembled for an
information session on the bombing in Oslo. The suspect reportedly arrived
on the island dressed in a police uniform, and then started shooting.
Witnesses described a horrific situation of seeing fellow campers, many of
them teenagers, gunned down before their eyes along the waterfront. Others
ran for shelter and tried to hide behind rocks and trees. Still others made
a desperate attempt to flee by swimming in the fjord s chilly waters to the
mainland, but some of them were reportedly shot as they tried to swim away.
One witness has described seeing as many as 30 bodies in the water, but
police would not confirm the number. Sponheim said, however, that they had
reason to believe the death toll from Ut ya would rise during the night. He
said investigators found explosives on the island that had not been
detonated, and indicated that more bodies were being discovered as well.
Predictable responses to this very same news article covering this
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July 23, 2011 at 3:49 am
Sorry that America seems to exported its right wing, tea bag hatred.
So sorry to see such violence by a right wing extremist in such a
peaceful country.
Reply
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      July 23, 2011 at 4:40 am
      Why would you use this tragedy to export your left wing hatred?
That’s sick.
w***@europe.com
2011-07-23 09:20:43 UTC
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Post by w***@europe.com
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
July 23, 2011
After great speculation that Norway had been hit by terrorist attacks on
Friday, police confirmed that the suspect they arrested is a 32-year-old
ethnic Norwegian. It remained unclear late Friday night whether he was
acting alone, or had ties to a terrorist organization. Speculation was
rising that he s linked to right-wing extremists, not Islamic terrorists.
Police suspect the same man is behind both the massacre at the Labour
Party's summer camp and the bombing that severely damaged many government
and commercial buildings in Oslo Friday afternoon. PHOTO: NRK/Views and News
Justice Minister Knut Storberget confirmed that police were holding a
suspect, charged with gunning down many members of the Labour Party s youth
organization AUF (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking) who were attending their
annual youth summer camp on an island in the Tyri Fjord.
Neither Storberget nor police, however, would reveal more details about the
suspect. They would not identify him nor say whether he had a criminal
record, although the website for newspaper VG identified him as Anders
Behring Breivik, age 32, a self-described nationalist with no criminal
record who was opposed to Islam and to a multi-cultural society. VG and
Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported that police were raiding the suspect s
home in west Oslo Friday night.
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
Sveinung Sponheim, acting chief of police Oslo, told reporters late Friday
night that police still had no motive for either the bombing or the
shootings at the summer camp on the island of Ut ya. Sponheim said he was
not sure how the man got from downtown to the island nor do they have a
motive for the shootings. He said, however, that the suspect had indicated
he was willing to undergo questioning by the police.
Professor Tore Bj rgo of Oslo s police academy said the suspect could be
tied to right-wing extremists with a grudge against the left-wing Labour
Party.
Death toll due to rise
 Police confirmed that 10 people were killed during the shooting. More than
600 AUF members were at the camp on Friday and many had assembled for an
information session on the bombing in Oslo. The suspect reportedly arrived
on the island dressed in a police uniform, and then started shooting.
Witnesses described a horrific situation of seeing fellow campers, many of
them teenagers, gunned down before their eyes along the waterfront. Others
ran for shelter and tried to hide behind rocks and trees. Still others made
a desperate attempt to flee by swimming in the fjord s chilly waters to the
mainland, but some of them were reportedly shot as they tried to swim away.
One witness has described seeing as many as 30 bodies in the water, but
police would not confirm the number. Sponheim said, however, that they had
reason to believe the death toll from Ut ya would rise during the night. He
said investigators found explosives on the island that had not been
detonated, and indicated that more bodies were being discovered as well.
Predictable responses to this very same news article covering this
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July 23, 2011 at 3:49 am
Sorry that America seems to exported its right wing, tea bag hatred.
So sorry to see such violence by a right wing extremist in such a
peaceful country.
Reply
    *
      July 23, 2011 at 4:40 am
      Why would you use this tragedy to export your left wing hatred?
That’s sick.
Predictable responses to this very same news article covering this
tragedy:

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#
peacelove says:
July 23, 2011 at 3:49 am

Sorry that America seems to exported its right wing, tea bag hatred.
So sorry to see such violence by a right wing extremist in such a
peaceful country.
Reply

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Abby in Sugar Land says:
July 23, 2011 at 4:40 am

Why would you use this tragedy to export your left wing hatred?
That’s sick.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-23 09:36:23 UTC
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On 23/07/11 11:20, in article
Post by w***@europe.com
Sorry that America seems to exported its right wing, tea bag hatred.
So sorry to see such violence by a right wing extremist in such a
peaceful country.
Norway has had problems in the past. The German appointed head
of the Norwegian government was Quisling, a name which would be
used for all the traitors of the various German occupied nations.

There were others and a Norwegian SS which also fought in Russia.

The French had its collabos also and French SS (Charlemagne division)
fought against the Russians, dedicated anti-Communists.
"The Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS Charlemagne"

If the US had been invaded, American collabos would have popped up
to dishonor the nation. No nation is immune.
Runge 128
2011-07-23 10:39:09 UTC
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Unwanted lecture by dying evleth


"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
CA5062B7.1F7674%***@wanadoo.fr...

On 23/07/11 11:20, in article
Post by w***@europe.com
Sorry that America seems to exported its right wing, tea bag hatred.
So sorry to see such violence by a right wing extremist in such a
peaceful country.
Norway has had problems in the past. The German appointed head
of the Norwegian government was Quisling, a name which would be
used for all the traitors of the various German occupied nations.

There were others and a Norwegian SS which also fought in Russia.

The French had its collabos also and French SS (Charlemagne division)
fought against the Russians, dedicated anti-Communists.
"The Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS Charlemagne"

If the US had been invaded, American collabos would have popped up
to dishonor the nation. No nation is immune.
hls
2011-07-23 13:49:33 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
On 23/07/11 11:20, in article
Post by w***@europe.com
Sorry that America seems to exported its right wing, tea bag hatred.
So sorry to see such violence by a right wing extremist in such a
peaceful country.
Norway has had problems in the past. The German appointed head
of the Norwegian government was Quisling, a name which would be
used for all the traitors of the various German occupied nations.
There were others and a Norwegian SS which also fought in Russia.
The French had its collabos also and French SS (Charlemagne division)
fought against the Russians, dedicated anti-Communists.
"The Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS Charlemagne"
If the US had been invaded, American collabos would have popped up
to dishonor the nation. No nation is immune.
Thank you for this, Earl, and it is very true. Quite a few
Norwegians bought into Hitler's propaganda of the Aryan
brotherhood of germanic peoples.

Anders Brevik seems to be a case of a similar nutter.

Since weapons of the type he used are essentially nonexistent
in Norway, and the ordinary citizen couldnt get one without
stealing it or some other illegal tactic, it tells one that -in this
case- gun control didnt really help.

In the USA, there is now fertilizer control...One can no longer
obtain bags of ammonium nitrate, which has powered most
home-made bombs.

But you can be assured that - where there is a nutter - they
will find a way.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-23 14:46:46 UTC
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Post by hls
Thank you for this, Earl, and it is very true. Quite a few
Norwegians bought into Hitler's propaganda of the Aryan
brotherhood of germanic peoples.
Strangely neither Himmler, Goebbels nor Hitler fitted the physical
ideal, blood, tall and athletic looking.
Post by hls
Anders Brevik seems to be a case of a similar nutter.
Perhaps another McVeigh type.
Post by hls
Since weapons of the type he used are essentially nonexistent
in Norway, and the ordinary citizen couldnt get one without
stealing it or some other illegal tactic, it tells one that -in this
case- gun control didnt really help.
In the USA, there is now fertilizer control...One can no longer
obtain bags of ammonium nitrate, which has powered most
home-made bombs.
I thought they made an adulterated ammonium nitrate
which can not be employed in bomb making.

There are other chemicals which can be used but far more dangerous.
I won't write more since I got picked up by the French police once
who caught my internet comments on this sort of thing.
hls
2011-07-23 15:42:01 UTC
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On 23/07/11 15:49, in article
Post by hls
Thank you for this, Earl, and it is very true. Quite a few
Norwegians bought into Hitler's propaganda of the Aryan
brotherhood of germanic peoples.
Strangely neither Himmler, Goebbels nor Hitler fitted the physical
ideal, blood, tall and athletic looking.
Post by hls
Anders Brevik seems to be a case of a similar nutter.
Perhaps another McVeigh type.
Post by hls
Since weapons of the type he used are essentially nonexistent
in Norway, and the ordinary citizen couldnt get one without
stealing it or some other illegal tactic, it tells one that -in this
case- gun control didnt really help.
In the USA, there is now fertilizer control...One can no longer
obtain bags of ammonium nitrate, which has powered most
home-made bombs.
I thought they made an adulterated ammonium nitrate
which can not be employed in bomb making.
There are other chemicals which can be used but far more dangerous.
I won't write more since I got picked up by the French police once
who caught my internet comments on this sort of thing.
In the USA they use urea, 46-0-0. Much safer. Commercial
farms can still buy ammonium nitrate, I think, but only in
truckload, bulk, with certifications.

There are still things one could buy off the shelf here
to make unstable organic compounds, but that requires
a little more ability than the common thug would have.
Runge 128
2011-07-23 22:28:30 UTC
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Lol !!!!
evleth trying to look important, lies and lies again.
Post by hls
Thank you for this, Earl, and it is very true. Quite a few
Norwegians bought into Hitler's propaganda of the Aryan
brotherhood of germanic peoples.
Strangely neither Himmler, Goebbels nor Hitler fitted the physical
ideal, blood, tall and athletic looking.
Post by hls
Anders Brevik seems to be a case of a similar nutter.
Perhaps another McVeigh type.
Post by hls
Since weapons of the type he used are essentially nonexistent
in Norway, and the ordinary citizen couldnt get one without
stealing it or some other illegal tactic, it tells one that -in this
case- gun control didnt really help.
In the USA, there is now fertilizer control...One can no longer
obtain bags of ammonium nitrate, which has powered most
home-made bombs.
I thought they made an adulterated ammonium nitrate
which can not be employed in bomb making.

There are other chemicals which can be used but far more dangerous.
I won't write more since I got picked up by the French police once
who caught my internet comments on this sort of thing.
John Rennie
2011-07-23 09:51:17 UTC
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Post by w***@europe.com
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
July 23, 2011
After great speculation that Norway had been hit by terrorist attacks on
Friday, police confirmed that the suspect they arrested is a 32-year-old
ethnic Norwegian. It remained unclear late Friday night whether he was
acting alone, or had ties to a terrorist organization. Speculation was
rising that he s linked to right-wing extremists, not Islamic terrorists.
Police suspect the same man is behind both the massacre at the Labour
Party's summer camp and the bombing that severely damaged many government
and commercial buildings in Oslo Friday afternoon. PHOTO: NRK/Views and News
Justice Minister Knut Storberget confirmed that police were holding a
suspect, charged with gunning down many members of the Labour Party s youth
organization AUF (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking) who were attending their
annual youth summer camp on an island in the Tyri Fjord.
Neither Storberget nor police, however, would reveal more details about the
suspect. They would not identify him nor say whether he had a criminal
record, although the website for newspaper VG identified him as Anders
Behring Breivik, age 32, a self-described nationalist with no criminal
record who was opposed to Islam and to a multi-cultural society. VG and
Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported that police were raiding the suspect s
home in west Oslo Friday night.
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
Sveinung Sponheim, acting chief of police Oslo, told reporters late Friday
night that police still had no motive for either the bombing or the
shootings at the summer camp on the island of Ut ya. Sponheim said he was
not sure how the man got from downtown to the island nor do they have a
motive for the shootings. He said, however, that the suspect had indicated
he was willing to undergo questioning by the police.
Professor Tore Bj rgo of Oslo s police academy said the suspect could be
tied to right-wing extremists with a grudge against the left-wing Labour
Party.
Death toll due to rise
Police confirmed that 10 people were killed during the shooting. More than
600 AUF members were at the camp on Friday and many had assembled for an
information session on the bombing in Oslo. The suspect reportedly arrived
on the island dressed in a police uniform, and then started shooting.
Witnesses described a horrific situation of seeing fellow campers, many of
them teenagers, gunned down before their eyes along the waterfront. Others
ran for shelter and tried to hide behind rocks and trees. Still others made
a desperate attempt to flee by swimming in the fjord s chilly waters to the
mainland, but some of them were reportedly shot as they tried to swim away.
One witness has described seeing as many as 30 bodies in the water, but
police would not confirm the number. Sponheim said, however, that they had
reason to believe the death toll from Ut ya would rise during the night. He
said investigators found explosives on the island that had not been
detonated, and indicated that more bodies were being discovered as well.
Predictable responses to this very same news article covering this
#
#
July 23, 2011 at 3:49 am
Sorry that America seems to exported its right wing, tea bag hatred.
So sorry to see such violence by a right wing extremist in such a
peaceful country.
Reply
*
July 23, 2011 at 4:40 am
Why would you use this tragedy to export your left wing hatred?
That’s sick.
This killer is neither right wing or left wing, religious or
non-religious. What he is is mad - quite mad. Now all the
Skandinavian countries have much more liberal laws regarding
the possession of guns than Britain has. Their governments
must ask themselves how someone so obviously demented was
allowed to possess a weapon. The same sort of question I
hope the Arizona legislature is asking itself re the killer
who wounded Mrs Giffords.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-23 11:19:22 UTC
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Post by John Rennie
This killer is neither right wing or left wing, religious or
non-religious. What he is is mad - quite mad. Now all the
Skandinavian countries have much more liberal laws regarding
the possession of guns than Britain has. Their governments
must ask themselves how someone so obviously demented was
allowed to possess a weapon. The same sort of question I
hope the Arizona legislature is asking itself re the killer
who wounded Mrs Giffords.
The news said he ran a agricultural company which allowed
him to accumulate the fertilizer (prabably ammonium nitrate)
he used in his bombs. The machine gun he is reported to
have is another thing. Not yet clear but in France it is
easier to get a black market machine gun than a hand weapon.
The arms come from the military arm surplus in the Balkans.
Because of the inspections going into England across the channel
the UK is more difficult to get things to,and Norway could be
the same.

I would not class the man as insane 'crazy" but obsessional
and that is of course a mental illness but does not prevent him
from using his intellect to act out.
John Rennie
2011-07-23 11:31:34 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Post by John Rennie
This killer is neither right wing or left wing, religious or
non-religious. What he is is mad - quite mad. Now all the
Skandinavian countries have much more liberal laws regarding
the possession of guns than Britain has. Their governments
must ask themselves how someone so obviously demented was
allowed to possess a weapon. The same sort of question I
hope the Arizona legislature is asking itself re the killer
who wounded Mrs Giffords.
The news said he ran a agricultural company which allowed
him to accumulate the fertilizer (prabably ammonium nitrate)
he used in his bombs. The machine gun he is reported to
have is another thing. Not yet clear but in France it is
easier to get a black market machine gun than a hand weapon.
The arms come from the military arm surplus in the Balkans.
Because of the inspections going into England across the channel
the UK is more difficult to get things to,and Norway could be
the same.
I would not class the man as insane 'crazy" but obsessional
and that is of course a mental illness but does not prevent him
from using his intellect to act out.
So he's mad, Earl. Just let that sink in and stop worrying
about right contacts etc.
Earl Evleth
2011-07-23 14:04:41 UTC
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Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
I would not class the man as insane 'crazy" but obsessional
and that is of course a mental illness but does not prevent him
from using his intellect to act out.
So he's mad, Earl. Just let that sink in and stop worrying
about right contacts etc.
I am interesting in classing his mental problems more accurately/
We don't have enough information to do that.

In the Arizona shooting, Loughner is sufficiently disturbed that
a judge found him to be incompetent to stand trial based on two medical
evaluations. We know from his internet postings he is weird and
so those evaluations seem reasonable. We have to wait on the
Norwegian. I'd say he probably profiles closer to being a McVeigh
who I would not class as having been insane.
Runge 128
2011-07-23 14:10:56 UTC
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evleth the expert was there, knows about it, teaches you about it...
Apparently he isn't dying anymore...
Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
I would not class the man as insane 'crazy" but obsessional
and that is of course a mental illness but does not prevent him
from using his intellect to act out.
So he's mad, Earl. Just let that sink in and stop worrying
about right contacts etc.
I am interesting in classing his mental problems more accurately/
We don't have enough information to do that.

In the Arizona shooting, Loughner is sufficiently disturbed that
a judge found him to be incompetent to stand trial based on two medical
evaluations. We know from his internet postings he is weird and
so those evaluations seem reasonable. We have to wait on the
Norwegian. I'd say he probably profiles closer to being a McVeigh
who I would not class as having been insane.
Sordo
2011-07-23 14:18:30 UTC
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Post by Runge 128
evleth the expert was there, knows about it, teaches you about it...
Apparently he isn't dying anymore...
We're praying for expediency.
Post by Runge 128
Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
I would not class the man as insane 'crazy" but obsessional
and that is of course a mental illness but does not prevent him
from using his intellect to act out.
So he's mad, Earl. Just let that sink in and stop worrying
about right contacts etc.
I am interesting in classing his mental problems more accurately/
We don't have enough information to do that.
In the Arizona shooting, Loughner is sufficiently disturbed that
a judge found him to be incompetent to stand trial based on two medical
evaluations. We know from his internet postings he is weird and
so those evaluations seem reasonable. We have to wait on the
Norwegian. I'd say he probably profiles closer to being a McVeigh
who I would not class as having been insane.
Runge 128
2011-07-23 14:24:14 UTC
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Lol.
Post by Runge 128
evleth the expert was there, knows about it, teaches you about it...
Apparently he isn't dying anymore...
We're praying for expediency.
Post by Runge 128
On 23/07/11 13:31, in article
Post by John Rennie
Post by Earl Evleth
I would not class the man as insane 'crazy" but obsessional
and that is of course a mental illness but does not prevent him
from using his intellect to act out.
So he's mad, Earl. Just let that sink in and stop worrying
about right contacts etc.
I am interesting in classing his mental problems more accurately/
We don't have enough information to do that.
In the Arizona shooting, Loughner is sufficiently disturbed that
a judge found him to be incompetent to stand trial based on two medical
evaluations. We know from his internet postings he is weird and
so those evaluations seem reasonable. We have to wait on the
Norwegian. I'd say he probably profiles closer to being a McVeigh
who I would not class as having been insane.
hls
2011-07-23 15:46:22 UTC
Permalink
On 23/07/11 11:51, in article
Post by John Rennie
This killer is neither right wing or left wing, religious or
non-religious. What he is is mad - quite mad. Now all the
Skandinavian countries have much more liberal laws regarding
the possession of guns than Britain has. Their governments
must ask themselves how someone so obviously demented was
allowed to possess a weapon. The same sort of question I
hope the Arizona legislature is asking itself re the killer
who wounded Mrs Giffords.
The news said he ran a agricultural company which allowed
him to accumulate the fertilizer (prabably ammonium nitrate)
he used in his bombs. The machine gun he is reported to
have is another thing. Not yet clear but in France it is
easier to get a black market machine gun than a hand weapon.
The arms come from the military arm surplus in the Balkans.
Because of the inspections going into England across the channel
the UK is more difficult to get things to,and Norway could be
the same.
I would not class the man as insane 'crazy" but obsessional
and that is of course a mental illness but does not prevent him
from using his intellect to act out.
I dont know that the UK is any stricter than Norway about the
possession of weapons. Both are quite strict. I agree, one
could probably buy a fully automatic weapon in previous
Yugoslavia, or in some of the old USSR states. And, some
weapons can be converted to fully automatic by almost any
moron.

Since Norway has a land border with Sweden, Finland, and
Russia, it would not be too hard, having the weapon, to
scuttle it across these borders. Once caught with it, the
possessor would be "in the poop".
mg
2011-07-23 12:07:25 UTC
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Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .

From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
Rita
2011-07-23 13:43:35 UTC
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Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins) are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.

Think about this:

Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them. No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
Jim_Higgins
2011-07-23 13:45:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rita
Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins) are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.
Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them. No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
Both types are insane, purveyors of death and barbarism.
mg
2011-07-23 15:03:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jim_Higgins
Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late.  :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins)  are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.
Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them.  No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
Both types are insane, purveyors of death and barbarism.
But they killed a relatively small number of people. Bush, on the
other hand, killed on a much grander scale.
Rumpelstiltskin
2011-07-23 16:20:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by mg
Post by Jim_Higgins
Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late.  :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins)  are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.
Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them.  No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
Both types are insane, purveyors of death and barbarism.
But they killed a relatively small number of people. Bush, on the
other hand, killed on a much grander scale.
I have a particularly strong reaction when I hear of kids
being targeted. I suppose that's irrational, but I think it is
human nature, and an aspect of human nature that I don't
object to. Of course, knowledge of that natural reaction is
probably why the murderer targeted kids.
mg
2011-07-23 23:54:41 UTC
Permalink
On Jul 23, 10:20 am, Rumpelstiltskin
Post by mg
Post by Jim_Higgins
Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late.  :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins)  are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.
Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them.  No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
Both types are insane, purveyors of death and barbarism.
But they killed a relatively small number of people. Bush, on the
other hand, killed on a much grander scale.
   I have a particularly strong reaction when I hear of kids
being targeted.  I suppose that's irrational, but I think it is
human nature, and an aspect of human nature that I don't
object to.  Of course, knowledge of that natural reaction is
probably why the murderer targeted kids.
I remember a story -- maybe it came from the movie "Apocalypse Now" --
where the Viet Cong had cut off the arms of all the children in a
village that had received vaccinations from the US Army.
Evelyn
2011-07-24 00:22:55 UTC
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Post by mg
On Jul 23, 10:20 am, Rumpelstiltskin
Post by mg
Post by Jim_Higgins
Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late.  :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins)  are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.
Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them.  No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
Both types are insane, purveyors of death and barbarism.
But they killed a relatively small number of people. Bush, on the
other hand, killed on a much grander scale.
   I have a particularly strong reaction when I hear of kids
being targeted.  I suppose that's irrational, but I think it is
human nature, and an aspect of human nature that I don't
object to.  Of course, knowledge of that natural reaction is
probably why the murderer targeted kids.
I remember a story -- maybe it came from the movie "Apocalypse Now" --
where the Viet Cong had cut off the arms of all the children in a
village that had received vaccinations from the US Army.
Horrible. Man's inhumanity to man is beyond comprehension. To
women and children it is worse.

Evelyn
Rumpelstiltskin
2011-07-24 03:19:17 UTC
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:54:41 -0700 (PDT), mg <***@yahoo.com>
<snip>
Post by mg
I remember a story -- maybe it came from the movie "Apocalypse Now" --
where the Viet Cong had cut off the arms of all the children in a
village that had received vaccinations from the US Army.
I wish I couldn't believe that could happen, but I can.

Will Janoschka
2011-07-23 20:31:45 UTC
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mg
2011-07-24 00:03:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by mg
Post by Jim_Higgins
Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins) are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.
Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them. No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
Both types are insane, purveyors of death and barbarism.
But they killed a relatively small number of people. Bush, on the
other hand, killed on a much grander scale.
As is anyone that would be president of the US!
Why do you wish the insane to "Lead"?
In this day and age, I suppose that one might say that a "good
president" is a contradiction in terms because winning the election
and becoming president probably requires the candidate to have some
personal characteristics nobody likes. Even so, they shouldn't all be
lumped together as being all the same. The current Chancellor of
Germany, Angela Merkel, for example, can't be compared to Adolph
Hitler.
Evelyn
2011-07-23 18:27:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rita
Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins) are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.
Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them. No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
I must admit that my first knee jerk thought was that it was probably
a Muslim...... I am glad it isn't because as this has shown us there
are blonde blue eyed, christian crazies out there too.

Evelyn
Gary
2011-07-23 18:37:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Evelyn
Post by Rita
Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins) are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.
Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them. No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
I must admit that my first knee jerk thought was that it was probably
a Muslim...... I am glad it isn't because as this has shown us there
are blonde blue eyed, christian crazies out there too.
Don't you wish the victims could be as happy as you are ?
Evelyn
2011-07-23 20:37:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gary
Post by Evelyn
Post by Rita
Post by mg
Post by Earl Evleth
Massacre suspect is Norwegian
. . .
Post by Earl Evleth
Bombing and massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik. PHOTO: Private
Police did say, though, that the suspect had been spotted in downtown Oslo
just before a massive bomb exploded at 3:26pm on Friday, and they have
linked him to that explosion as well as the massacre. They did not say how
he was spotted, but there are numerous surveillance cameras around the
government complex s area (called Regjeringskvartalet) where the bomb went
off.
. . .
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
The Jims (E. and Higgins) are sucking their thumbs today in
disappointment that the Norwegian mad bomber is a Christian rightie.
After leaping into the group with great glee announcing of course a
Muslim was responsible.
Because he is a blonde blue eyed Nordic he was able to fool those
poor kids on the island into believing he was a police officer sent
to protect them. No Muslim would have been able to pull that
one off.
I must admit that my first knee jerk thought was that it was probably
a Muslim...... I am glad it isn't because as this has shown us there
are blonde blue eyed, christian crazies out there too.
Don't you wish the victims could be as happy as you are ?
I am not happy.

I am shocked and stunned and sad for all those poor kids and innocent
lives lost for no reason.

Sometimes you are a real jerk, Gary.

Evelyn
Earl Evleth
2011-07-23 14:09:38 UTC
Permalink
On 23/07/11 14:07, in article
Post by mg
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
And he is Nordic with blond hair! The guy's photo would have classified
him by the Nazis as perfect Aryan. What is true is that the Islamphobes
are, at this point, disappointed.

We still don't know about his contacts. The French paper Liberation this
morning did mention a case of a Norwegian involved in a plot with some
Islamics. So we should not rush to judgment.
Gary
2011-07-23 15:12:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Earl Evleth
On 23/07/11 14:07, in article
Post by mg
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
And he is Nordic with blond hair! The guy's photo would have classified
him by the Nazis as perfect Aryan. What is true is that the Islamphobes
are, at this point, disappointed.
We still don't know about his contacts. The French paper Liberation this
morning did mention a case of a Norwegian involved in a plot with some
Islamics. So we should not rush to judgment.
Shooting and killing 80+ people is the act of a psychotic raised in
the Western culture. Let's wait and see who did the bombing.
Blowing people up is more in the mode of Muslim entertainment....
than shooting.
Rita
2011-07-23 15:20:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gary
Post by Earl Evleth
On 23/07/11 14:07, in article
Post by mg
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
And he is Nordic with blond hair! The guy's photo would have classified
him by the Nazis as perfect Aryan. What is true is that the Islamphobes
are, at this point, disappointed.
We still don't know about his contacts. The French paper Liberation this
morning did mention a case of a Norwegian involved in a plot with some
Islamics. So we should not rush to judgment.
Shooting and killing 80+ people is the act of a psychotic raised in
the Western culture. Let's wait and see who did the bombing.
Blowing people up is more in the mode of Muslim entertainment....
than shooting.
The Norwegian Christian right winger bought several tons of
fertilizer -- used to make bombs -- as Tim McVey did.
Gary
2011-07-23 15:45:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rita
Post by Gary
Post by Earl Evleth
On 23/07/11 14:07, in article
Post by mg
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
And he is Nordic with blond hair! The guy's photo would have classified
him by the Nazis as perfect Aryan. What is true is that the Islamphobes
are, at this point, disappointed.
We still don't know about his contacts. The French paper Liberation this
morning did mention a case of a Norwegian involved in a plot with some
Islamics. So we should not rush to judgment.
Shooting and killing 80+ people is the act of a psychotic raised in
the Western culture. Let's wait and see who did the bombing.
Blowing people up is more in the mode of Muslim entertainment....
than shooting.
The Norwegian Christian right winger bought several tons of
fertilizer -- used to make bombs -- as Tim McVey did.
Yeah, I read that. But I'll wait and see. I'm still not
convinced Tim McVeigh acted alone. There were Muslim sightings
back then. Shooting people is a Western thing. Blowing them up --
is more like something Mohammed would enjoy.
mg
2011-07-23 16:20:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rita
Post by Gary
Post by Earl Evleth
On 23/07/11 14:07, in article
Post by mg
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late.  :-)
And he is Nordic with blond hair!  The guy's photo would have classified
him by the Nazis as perfect Aryan.  What is true is that the Islamphobes
are, at this point, disappointed.
We still don't know about his contacts. The French paper Liberation this
morning did mention a case of a Norwegian involved in a plot with some
Islamics.  So we should not rush to judgment.
Shooting and killing 80+ people is the act of a psychotic raised in
the Western culture.    Let's wait and see who did the bombing.
Blowing people up is more in the mode of Muslim entertainment....
than shooting.
The Norwegian Christian right winger bought several tons of
fertilizer -- used to make bombs -- as Tim McVey did.
Yeah,  I read that.    But I'll  wait and see.   I'm still not
convinced Tim McVeigh acted alone.     There were Muslim sightings
back then.    Shooting people is a Western thing.  Blowing them up --
is more like something Mohammed would  enjoy.  
Now that you bring up the subject, I'm not sure that the guy who
supposedly sent the anthrax in envelopes acted alone either.
Evelyn
2011-07-23 18:28:58 UTC
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Post by Gary
Post by Rita
Post by Gary
Post by Earl Evleth
On 23/07/11 14:07, in article
Post by mg
From what I understand, Fox news sent a team of "reporters" to Norway
to doctor the photo to make the guy look like an Islamofascist, but
they got there to late. :-)
And he is Nordic with blond hair! The guy's photo would have classified
him by the Nazis as perfect Aryan. What is true is that the Islamphobes
are, at this point, disappointed.
We still don't know about his contacts. The French paper Liberation this
morning did mention a case of a Norwegian involved in a plot with some
Islamics. So we should not rush to judgment.
Shooting and killing 80+ people is the act of a psychotic raised in
the Western culture. Let's wait and see who did the bombing.
Blowing people up is more in the mode of Muslim entertainment....
than shooting.
The Norwegian Christian right winger bought several tons of
fertilizer -- used to make bombs -- as Tim McVey did.
Yeah, I read that. But I'll wait and see. I'm still not
convinced Tim McVeigh acted alone. There were Muslim sightings
back then. Shooting people is a Western thing. Blowing them up --
is more like something Mohammed would enjoy.
I don't think so, Gary. They investigated it pretty thoroughly.

Evelyn
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