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Deroy Murdock: Critical race theory loved by Democratic-left preaches Black failure. That is so wrong
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Johnny
2021-05-28 20:40:35 UTC
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By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago

Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest, ugliest
Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and irredeemably bigoted,
denounces all whites as racial oppressors, and diminishes all Blacks as
racially oppressed victims.

Lies, lies, lies.

The third lie is the worst.

Black Lives Matter, the "diversity" police, and other "systemic
racism"-mongers relentlessly claim that white privilege and white
supremacy blockade Black success. Blacks think, "Yes, we can." The
Democratic-left replies: "No, you can’t."

Last June, Seattle staged Interrupting Internalized Racial Superiority
and Whiteness. This segregated brainwashing program for white municipal
workers accused them of rendering people of color "unable to imagine a
way forward that comes from a place of humanity and empowerment."

So, Blacks are paralyzed victims, as helpless as butterflies ensnared
in a tarantula’s web of white racism.

This frightful fantasy is concocted to leave Blacks cold and scared —
all the better to swaddle them in the warm, loving arms of the Left.

Continued:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/critical-race-theory-democratic-left-blacks-failure-deroy-murdock
Johnny
2021-05-28 21:33:17 UTC
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By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest, ugliest
Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and irredeemably bigoted,
denounces all whites as racial oppressors, and diminishes all
Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference between
fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
Post by Johnny
The third lie is the worst.
Black Lives Matter, the "diversity" police, and other "systemic
racism"-mongers relentlessly claim that white privilege and white
supremacy blockade Black success. Blacks think, "Yes, we can." The
Democratic-left replies: "No, you can’t."
Last June, Seattle staged Interrupting Internalized Racial
Superiority and Whiteness. This segregated brainwashing program for
white municipal workers accused them of rendering people of color
"unable to imagine a way forward that comes from a place of
humanity and empowerment."
So, Blacks are paralyzed victims, as helpless as butterflies
ensnared in a tarantula’s web of white racism.
This frightful fantasy is concocted to leave Blacks cold and scared
— all the better to swaddle them in the warm, loving arms of the
Left.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/critical-race-theory-democratic-left-blacks-failure-deroy-murdock
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-28 21:56:41 UTC
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
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By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest, ugliest
Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and irredeemably bigoted,
denounces all whites as racial oppressors, and diminishes all
Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference between
fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
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The third lie is the worst.
Black Lives Matter, the "diversity" police, and other "systemic
racism"-mongers relentlessly claim that white privilege and white
supremacy blockade Black success. Blacks think, "Yes, we can." The
Democratic-left replies: "No, you can’t."
Last June, Seattle staged Interrupting Internalized Racial
Superiority and Whiteness. This segregated brainwashing program for
white municipal workers accused them of rendering people of color
"unable to imagine a way forward that comes from a place of
humanity and empowerment."
So, Blacks are paralyzed victims, as helpless as butterflies
ensnared in a tarantula’s web of white racism.
This frightful fantasy is concocted to leave Blacks cold and scared
— all the better to swaddle them in the warm, loving arms of the
Left.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/critical-race-theory-democratic-left-blacks-failure-deroy-murdock
Johnny
2021-05-28 22:08:59 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
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By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie. How did he
become successful with all the white oppression? Maybe it doesn't
exist.
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The third lie is the worst.
Black Lives Matter, the "diversity" police, and other "systemic
racism"-mongers relentlessly claim that white privilege and white
supremacy blockade Black success. Blacks think, "Yes, we can." The
Democratic-left replies: "No, you can’t."
Last June, Seattle staged Interrupting Internalized Racial
Superiority and Whiteness. This segregated brainwashing program
for white municipal workers accused them of rendering people of
color "unable to imagine a way forward that comes from a place of
humanity and empowerment."
So, Blacks are paralyzed victims, as helpless as butterflies
ensnared in a tarantula’s web of white racism.
This frightful fantasy is concocted to leave Blacks cold and
scared — all the better to swaddle them in the warm, loving arms
of the Left.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/critical-race-theory-democratic-left-blacks-failure-deroy-murdock
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-28 22:14:11 UTC
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
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By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie. How did he
become successful with all the white oppression? Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
El Castor
2021-05-29 05:40:45 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie. How did he
become successful with all the white oppression? Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-29 06:01:54 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie. How did he
become successful with all the white oppression? Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
El Castor
2021-05-29 16:32:43 UTC
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie. How did he
become successful with all the white oppression? Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-29 18:50:24 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie. How did he
become successful with all the white oppression? Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
El Castor
2021-05-30 06:17:23 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie. How did he
become successful with all the white oppression? Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.

"Critical Race Theory In Wisconsin K12 Education"
https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2021/05/critical-race-theory-in-wisconsin-k12-education/

"Judicial Watch announced today it received 685 pages of heavily
redacted records from Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS)
including documents related to their “Anti-racist system audit” and
critical race theory classes."
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/crt-schools-454k/

"My colleague, Joanne Florino, wrote CRT has become entrenched in the
K-12 curriculum in many districts. I’ve been contacted by numerous
concerned parents, non-profits and donors about the hiring of
“consultants” by districts to make CRT mandatory in public school
classrooms."
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/home/blog/post/roundtable/2021/03/30/loudoun-county-parents-at-war-over-critical-race-theory-in-curriculum
"Rural Springfield, MO Public Schools Teach Kids Critical Race Theory
Including: Saying MAGA and Calling the Cops is White Supremacy"
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/rural-springfield-mo-public-schools-teaching-kids-critical-race-theory-including-saying-maga-calling-cops-white-supremacy/
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-30 15:14:47 UTC
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
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By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie. How did he
become successful with all the white oppression? Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-30 16:16:59 UTC
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
El Castor
2021-05-30 18:42:25 UTC
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
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By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.

As for my sources, I understand your comment concerning bias. I would
prefer liberal sources, but in the current climate of intense
political rivalry and hatred, it is just about impossible to find a
liberal critic of CRT.
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-30 18:53:39 UTC
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By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
For middle school on up, that's bad in and of itself. And that applies
just as much to the standard messages as it does to CRT.
El Castor
2021-05-30 19:13:46 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial
oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
For middle school on up, that's bad in and of itself. And that applies
just as much to the standard messages as it does to CRT.
Cite?
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-30 19:40:39 UTC
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Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
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Post by Josh Rosenbluth
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:01:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:11 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial
oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says
it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
For middle school on up, that's bad in and of itself. And that applies
just as much to the standard messages as it does to CRT.
Cite?
Huh? All I did was express my opinion that if 6-12 teaches (as
undeniable fact) rather than debates (as unclear in many cases) history,
that's bad. What do you expect me to cite?
El Castor
2021-05-31 05:06:45 UTC
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On Sun, 30 May 2021 11:53:39 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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On Sun, 30 May 2021 09:16:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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On Sat, 29 May 2021 11:50:24 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:01:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:11 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial
oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says
it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
For middle school on up, that's bad in and of itself. And that applies
just as much to the standard messages as it does to CRT.
Cite?
Huh? All I did was express my opinion that if 6-12 teaches (as
undeniable fact) rather than debates (as unclear in many cases) history,
that's bad. What do you expect me to cite?
Sorry, but I am confounded by your contention that K-12 teachers do
not teach, but rather are moderators of debate? If a teacher stands in
front of a class and states that race is not biological but rather a
social construct, that statement coming from instructor to student is
considered by those students to be fact, and is believed by the
instructor to be a fact, else why would he or she say it? The same
assumption goes for George Washington was the first president of the
United States, or the definition of the radius of a circle.
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-31 14:43:41 UTC
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On Sun, 30 May 2021 09:16:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Sat, 29 May 2021 11:50:24 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:01:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:11 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial
oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says
it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool
(or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival
and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in
the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
For middle school on up, that's bad in and of itself. And that applies
just as much to the standard messages as it does to CRT.
Cite?
Huh? All I did was express my opinion that if 6-12 teaches (as
undeniable fact) rather than debates (as unclear in many cases) history,
that's bad. What do you expect me to cite?
Sorry, but I am confounded by your contention that K-12 teachers do
not teach, but rather are moderators of debate?
I didn't make that contention. I said for middle-school on up they
*should* be leading moderating debates about the whys and impacts of
history and current events rather than teaching them as facts.
Post by El Castor
If a teacher stands in
front of a class and states that race is not biological but rather a
social construct, that statement coming from instructor to student is
considered by those students to be fact, and is believed by the
instructor to be a fact, else why would he or she say it?
Right, which is why the teacher should be moderating a debate on the
subject rather than stating it is fact.
Post by El Castor
The same
assumption goes for George Washington was the first president of the
United States, or the definition of the radius of a circle.
Of course those two items should be taught as facts (and of course math
class is only about facts). But, the impacts of the Washington
presidency should not be taught as fact.
El Castor
2021-05-31 18:14:43 UTC
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:01:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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Post by El Castor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:11 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial
oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says
it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool
(or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival
and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in
the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
For middle school on up, that's bad in and of itself. And that applies
just as much to the standard messages as it does to CRT.
Cite?
Huh? All I did was express my opinion that if 6-12 teaches (as
undeniable fact) rather than debates (as unclear in many cases) history,
that's bad. What do you expect me to cite?
Sorry, but I am confounded by your contention that K-12 teachers do
not teach, but rather are moderators of debate?
I didn't make that contention. I said for middle-school on up they
*should* be leading moderating debates about the whys and impacts of
history and current events rather than teaching them as facts.
Oh, that is what teachers "should" be doing. How does that work?
Instead of stating "Race is not biological but rather a
social construct" they preface their remarks with "There are those who
claim", or "some say"? Is that what you really believe teachers are
doing?
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
If a teacher stands in
front of a class and states that race is not biological but rather a
social construct, that statement coming from instructor to student is
considered by those students to be fact, and is believed by the
instructor to be a fact, else why would he or she say it?
Right, which is why the teacher should be moderating a debate on the
subject rather than stating it is fact.
Cite?
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
The same
assumption goes for George Washington was the first president of the
United States, or the definition of the radius of a circle.
Of course those two items should be taught as facts (and of course math
class is only about facts). But, the impacts of the Washington
presidency should not be taught as fact.
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-31 19:36:49 UTC
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On Sun, 30 May 2021 11:53:39 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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On Sun, 30 May 2021 09:16:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
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On Sat, 29 May 2021 11:50:24 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:01:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:11 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial
oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says
it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool
(or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival
and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in
the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
For middle school on up, that's bad in and of itself. And that applies
just as much to the standard messages as it does to CRT.
Cite?
Huh? All I did was express my opinion that if 6-12 teaches (as
undeniable fact) rather than debates (as unclear in many cases) history,
that's bad. What do you expect me to cite?
Sorry, but I am confounded by your contention that K-12 teachers do
not teach, but rather are moderators of debate?
I didn't make that contention. I said for middle-school on up they
*should* be leading moderating debates about the whys and impacts of
history and current events rather than teaching them as facts.
Oh, that is what teachers "should" be doing. How does that work?
Instead of stating "Race is not biological but rather a
social construct" they preface their remarks with "There are those who
claim", or "some say"? Is that what you really believe teachers are
doing?
I have no idea what they are doing. But, that's what they should be doing.
Post by El Castor
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
If a teacher stands in
front of a class and states that race is not biological but rather a
social construct, that statement coming from instructor to student is
considered by those students to be fact, and is believed by the
instructor to be a fact, else why would he or she say it?
Right, which is why the teacher should be moderating a debate on the
subject rather than stating it is fact.
Cite?
Again, how can I provide a citation for what I think *should* be happening?
Post by El Castor
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
The same
assumption goes for George Washington was the first president of the
United States, or the definition of the radius of a circle.
Of course those two items should be taught as facts (and of course math
class is only about facts). But, the impacts of the Washington
presidency should not be taught as fact.
El Castor
2021-05-31 20:33:10 UTC
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On Sun, 30 May 2021 09:16:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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On Sat, 29 May 2021 11:50:24 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:11 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s filthiest,
ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as inherently and
irredeemably bigoted, denounces all whites as racial
oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the difference
between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says
it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.  How
did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it doesn't
exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool
(or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off economically than
anyone in this group, but that doesn't change the fact of a US Black
median IQ of 85, and significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of
Darwinian evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with survival
and
the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85 IQ, but dominance in
many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points higher than their Black
counterparts and an average household income higher than their White
counterparts, although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in
the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when it comes
to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and 2) Jeff
will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said (CRT is a
matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But shockingly enough, that's
what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a relevant
point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as fact, that's
bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against CRT, so I
withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
For middle school on up, that's bad in and of itself. And that applies
just as much to the standard messages as it does to CRT.
Cite?
Huh? All I did was express my opinion that if 6-12 teaches (as
undeniable fact) rather than debates (as unclear in many cases) history,
that's bad. What do you expect me to cite?
Sorry, but I am confounded by your contention that K-12 teachers do
not teach, but rather are moderators of debate?
I didn't make that contention. I said for middle-school on up they
*should* be leading moderating debates about the whys and impacts of
history and current events rather than teaching them as facts.
Oh, that is what teachers "should" be doing. How does that work?
Instead of stating "Race is not biological but rather a
social construct" they preface their remarks with "There are those who
claim", or "some say"? Is that what you really believe teachers are
doing?
I have no idea what they are doing. But, that's what they should be doing.
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Post by El Castor
If a teacher stands in
front of a class and states that race is not biological but rather a
social construct, that statement coming from instructor to student is
considered by those students to be fact, and is believed by the
instructor to be a fact, else why would he or she say it?
Right, which is why the teacher should be moderating a debate on the
subject rather than stating it is fact.
Cite?
Again, how can I provide a citation for what I think *should* be happening?
Correct. You can't because you have no way of knowing what is actually
happening. You apparently also want to believe that CRT is only being
taught 6-12 -- presumably because debate is difficult to imagine K-5.
Well, there is a growing controversy across the country for and
against the teaching of Critical Race Theory in public schools. CRT
training and bans pretty much universally reference K-12, not 6-12.
For example ...

"Tennessee House Passes Bill Banning Critical Race Theory from K-12
Schools"
https://tennesseestar.com/2021/05/05/tennessee-house-passes-bill-banning-critical-race-theory-from-k-12-schools/

"On May 5, Governor Jay Inslee of Washington signed a bill into law
mandating critical race theory training for K-12 educators in the
state."
https://www.ptnewsnetwork.com/washington-governor-signs-bill-mandating-critical-race-theory-training-for-public-school-educators/
Josh Rosenbluth
2021-05-31 20:39:35 UTC
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On Mon, 31 May 2021 12:36:49 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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If a teacher stands in
front of a class and states that race is not biological but rather a
social construct, that statement coming from instructor to student is
considered by those students to be fact, and is believed by the
instructor to be a fact, else why would he or she say it?
Right, which is why the teacher should be moderating a debate on the
subject rather than stating it is fact.
Cite?
Again, how can I provide a citation for what I think *should* be happening?
Correct. You can't because you have no way of knowing what is actually
happening.
What is actually happening, including your comments below, has no
relevance to what I think should be happening.
Post by El Castor
You apparently also want to believe that CRT is only being
taught 6-12 -- presumably because debate is difficult to imagine K-5.
Well, there is a growing controversy across the country for and
against the teaching of Critical Race Theory in public schools. CRT
training and bans pretty much universally reference K-12, not 6-12.
For example ...
"Tennessee House Passes Bill Banning Critical Race Theory from K-12
Schools"
https://tennesseestar.com/2021/05/05/tennessee-house-passes-bill-banning-critical-race-theory-from-k-12-schools/
"On May 5, Governor Jay Inslee of Washington signed a bill into law
mandating critical race theory training for K-12 educators in the
state."
https://www.ptnewsnetwork.com/washington-governor-signs-bill-mandating-critical-race-theory-training-for-public-school-educators/
El Castor
2021-06-01 06:02:25 UTC
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Post by El Castor
On Mon, 31 May 2021 12:36:49 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
{snip}
Post by El Castor
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
If a teacher stands in
front of a class and states that race is not biological but rather a
social construct, that statement coming from instructor to student is
considered by those students to be fact, and is believed by the
instructor to be a fact, else why would he or she say it?
Right, which is why the teacher should be moderating a debate on the
subject rather than stating it is fact.
Cite?
Again, how can I provide a citation for what I think *should* be happening?
Correct. You can't because you have no way of knowing what is actually
happening.
What is actually happening, including your comments below, has no
relevance to what I think should be happening.
Yes, but don't confuse what you wish for with what is. (-8
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Post by El Castor
You apparently also want to believe that CRT is only being
taught 6-12 -- presumably because debate is difficult to imagine K-5.
Well, there is a growing controversy across the country for and
against the teaching of Critical Race Theory in public schools. CRT
training and bans pretty much universally reference K-12, not 6-12.
For example ...
"Tennessee House Passes Bill Banning Critical Race Theory from K-12
Schools"
https://tennesseestar.com/2021/05/05/tennessee-house-passes-bill-banning-critical-race-theory-from-k-12-schools/
"On May 5, Governor Jay Inslee of Washington signed a bill into law
mandating critical race theory training for K-12 educators in the
state."
https://www.ptnewsnetwork.com/washington-governor-signs-bill-mandating-critical-race-theory-training-for-public-school-educators/
Johnny
2021-05-30 19:16:35 UTC
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On Sat, 29 May 2021 11:50:24 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:01:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:11 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s
filthiest, ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as
inherently and irredeemably bigoted, denounces all
whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed
victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the
difference between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly
says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.
How did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it
doesn't exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off
economically than anyone in this group, but that doesn't
change the fact of a US Black median IQ of 85, and
significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of Darwinian
evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with
survival and the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85
IQ, but dominance in many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points
higher than their Black counterparts and an average
household income higher than their White counterparts,
although trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when
it comes to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and
2) Jeff will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically
motivated nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said
(CRT is a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But
shockingly enough, that's what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a
relevant point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught
as fact, that's bad (noting that all of your sources are biased
against CRT, so I withhold judgment on the accuracy of their
conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There
may be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to
conveying knowledge.
For middle school on up, that's bad in and of itself. And that
applies just as much to the standard messages as it does to CRT.
It shouldn't be debated in schools, it will only cause problems among
the black and white students. If you haven't noticed, students are
carring guns to school.
Johnny
2021-05-30 19:14:09 UTC
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Post by El Castor
On Sun, 30 May 2021 09:16:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Sat, 29 May 2021 11:50:24 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:01:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:11 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s
filthiest, ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as
inherently and irredeemably bigoted, denounces all
whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the
difference between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.
How did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it
doesn't exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off
economically than anyone in this group, but that doesn't
change the fact of a US Black median IQ of 85, and
significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of Darwinian
evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with
survival and the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85
IQ, but dominance in many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points
higher than their Black counterparts and an average household
income higher than their White counterparts, although
trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when
it comes to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and
2) Jeff will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said
(CRT is a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But
shockingly enough, that's what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a
relevant point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as
fact, that's bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against
CRT, so I withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
As for my sources, I understand your comment concerning bias. I would
prefer liberal sources, but in the current climate of intense
political rivalry and hatred, it is just about impossible to find a
liberal critic of CRT.
It's not hard to find black people against it, if you just search
duckduckgo.com.

Black Activists Applaud Defunding of “Critical Race Theory”
Training

https://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2020/09/09/black-activists-applaud-defunding-of-critical-race-theory-training/



https://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2020/09/09/black-activists-applaud-defunding-of-critical-race-theory-training/
El Castor
2021-05-31 05:29:08 UTC
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Post by Josh Rosenbluth
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On Sat, 29 May 2021 11:50:24 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:01:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:11 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:56:41 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:19:37 -0700
Post by Johnny
By Deroy Murdock
Published 48 mins ago
Critical Race Theory may be the Democratic-left’s
filthiest, ugliest Big Lie. It defines America as
inherently and irredeemably bigoted, denounces all
whites as racial oppressors,
and diminishes all Blacks as racially oppressed victims.
Lies, lies, lies.
God help the United States when we can't tell the
difference between fact and opinion.
Are you saying critical race theory is a fact?
No. It's an opinion. The author of your link incorrectly
says it is a
matter of fact (objectively can be proven true or false).
Murdock is black and sees critical race theory as a lie.
How did he
become successful with all the white oppression?  Maybe it
doesn't exist.
Maybe. Maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. Murdock is a fool (or a
troll) if he thinks it is a matter of fact.
There are Blacks who are smarter and more well off
economically than anyone in this group, but that doesn't
change the fact of a US Black median IQ of 85, and
significantly less in Africa. Just a matter of Darwinian
evolution in a harsh African environment -- an environment
that rewarded the fastest, strongest, and most agile with
survival and the greatest success in reproduction. Thus 85
IQ, but dominance in many Olympic events. Asians, 20 points
higher than their Black counterparts and an average household
income higher than their White counterparts, although
trailing US Jews who outscore all others in the
IQ department. I could go on, but IQ is the real story when
it comes to economic success and crime rates -- Period!
Two things you can count on: 1) the sun rises in the East and
2) Jeff will introduce a Pavlovian red herring.
Not a red herring. Critical race theory is politically motivated
nonsense. IQ is what it is all about.
Whether CRT is nonsense or not is not relevant to what I said
(CRT is a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. But
shockingly enough, that's what you focused on.
It is opinion that is being taught as fact in many K-12 schools.
Pavlov is smiling.
I need to apologize for that comment because you were making a
relevant point about opinion versus fact. If CRT is being taught as
fact, that's bad (noting that all of your sources are biased against
CRT, so I withhold judgment on the accuracy of their conclusions).
At least in my experience K-12 does not debate, it teaches. There may
be some discussion, but it is an environment devoted to conveying
knowledge.
As for my sources, I understand your comment concerning bias. I would
prefer liberal sources, but in the current climate of intense
political rivalry and hatred, it is just about impossible to find a
liberal critic of CRT.
It's not hard to find black people against it, if you just search
duckduckgo.com.
Black Activists Applaud Defunding of “Critical Race Theory”
Training
https://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2020/09/09/black-activists-applaud-defunding-of-critical-race-theory-training/
https://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2020/09/09/black-activists-applaud-defunding-of-critical-race-theory-training/
Ah! Don't assume that Black and Liberal are the same thing. Just tune
into Fox News & Buisness sometime. Lots of Black faces. Fox is
Conservative and so is The National Center. Neither would meet Josh's
"unbiased" test. There may well be Liberal sites that oppose CRT, but
offhand I haven't found one.
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