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This has to be a planned, intentional destruction of much of global civilization.
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me
2020-09-24 13:20:40 UTC
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The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
Johnny
2020-09-24 13:48:21 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world by
their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.

When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News has
one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US, updated
daily.

People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared animals,
and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get out and go
back to work.
Josh Rosenbluth
2020-09-24 16:25:22 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world by
their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News has
one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US, updated
daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared animals,
and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get out and go
back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
Johnny
2020-09-24 16:35:23 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world
by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News
has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US,
updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get
out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and starve
to death?

Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
Josh Rosenbluth
2020-09-24 16:53:23 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world
by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News
has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US,
updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get
out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and starve
to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have testing
and tracing to suppress it.
El Castor
2020-09-24 18:56:58 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world
by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News
has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US,
updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get
out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and starve
to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have testing
and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Johnny
2020-09-24 20:23:09 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were
the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the
world by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the
virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox
News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in
the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can
get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and
starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have
testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
El Castor
2020-09-25 06:12:12 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were
the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the
world by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the
virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox
News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in
the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can
get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and
starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have
testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been purposefully
destroyed." etc.

Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to relax.
This thing should be substantially over in a few months and our
civilization, which has not been destroyed, will recover.
Johnny
2020-09-25 14:32:53 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They
were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread
around the world by their constant gloom and doom daily news
reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox
News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths
in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can
get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and
starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have
testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been purposefully
destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to relax.
This thing should be substantially over in a few months and our
civilization, which has not been destroyed, will recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.

There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal will come
from. They have no job and very little hope of getting one.

What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?

To me the answer is no.

The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died from this
virus. I have posted several articles showing this number is inflated
because no matter if there is an underlying cause of death, the virus
is blamed for it.

Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a very small
number, and the people dying are the elderly and and people in poor
health. They are the ones that should be quarantined.

Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health have very
little chance of dying from it.
Josh Rosenbluth
2020-09-25 15:56:59 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They
were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread
around the world by their constant gloom and doom daily news
reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox
News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths
in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can
get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and
starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have
testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been purposefully
destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to relax.
This thing should be substantially over in a few months and our
civilization, which has not been destroyed, will recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal will come
from. They have no job and very little hope of getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died from this
virus. I have posted several articles showing this number is inflated
because no matter if there is an underlying cause of death, the virus
is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than expected.
What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a very small
number, and the people dying are the elderly and and people in poor
health. They are the ones that should be quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health have very
little chance of dying from it.
Johnny
2020-09-25 16:08:52 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They
were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread
around the world by their constant gloom and doom daily news
reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox
News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths
in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or
they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and
starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by
a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have
testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is
way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will end
when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months and
our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal will
come from. They have no job and very little hope of getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died from
this virus. I have posted several articles showing this number is
inflated because no matter if there is an underlying cause of
death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a very
small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and people
in poor health. They are the ones that should be quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health have
very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the hospitals
in this country will be overflowing, and people will be dying for the
lack of respirators.

The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
Josh Rosenbluth
2020-09-25 17:19:17 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They
were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread
around the world by their constant gloom and doom daily news
reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox
News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths
in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or
they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and
starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by
a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have
testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is
way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will end
when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months and
our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal will
come from. They have no job and very little hope of getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died from
this virus. I have posted several articles showing this number is
inflated because no matter if there is an underlying cause of
death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a very
small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and people
in poor health. They are the ones that should be quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health have
very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the hospitals
in this country will be overflowing, and people will be dying for the
lack of respirators.
The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
200,000. Not fake news.
Johnny
2020-09-25 17:25:59 UTC
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Permalink
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:19:17 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They
were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread
around the world by their constant gloom and doom daily
news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus?
Fox News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the
deaths in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them,
or they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses,
and starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained
by a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had
a lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should
have testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is
way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will end
when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months
and our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will
recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal will
come from. They have no job and very little hope of getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died from
this virus. I have posted several articles showing this number is
inflated because no matter if there is an underlying cause of
death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a very
small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and people
in poor health. They are the ones that should be quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health have
very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the
hospitals in this country will be overflowing, and people will be
dying for the lack of respirators.
The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
200,000. Not fake news.
The number is not fake, it's just wrong. All those people didn't die
from the virus.

The fake new is overflowing hospitals and people dying for lack of
respirators.

Because of that fake news cities have spent millions of dollars
building overflow hospitals and acquiring respirators.

See how much confidence people have in news reports?
Josh Rosenbluth
2020-09-25 17:32:50 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:19:17 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They
were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread
around the world by their constant gloom and doom daily
news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus?
Fox News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the
deaths in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them,
or they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses,
and starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained
by a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had
a lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should
have testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is
way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will end
when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months
and our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will
recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal will
come from. They have no job and very little hope of getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died from
this virus. I have posted several articles showing this number is
inflated because no matter if there is an underlying cause of
death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a very
small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and people
in poor health. They are the ones that should be quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health have
very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the
hospitals in this country will be overflowing, and people will be
dying for the lack of respirators.
The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
200,000. Not fake news.
The number is not fake, it's just wrong. All those people didn't die
from the virus.
Again, the number of deaths over what as expected is greater than
200,000. It is likely COVID-19 has killed more than 200,000.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-covid-19-death-count-is-almost-certainly-too-low/
Post by Johnny
The fake new is overflowing hospitals and people dying for lack of
respirators.
Citations?
Post by Johnny
Because of that fake news cities have spent millions of dollars
building overflow hospitals and acquiring respirators.
See how much confidence people have in news reports?
Johnny
2020-09-25 17:37:19 UTC
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Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:19:17 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media.
They were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to
spread around the world by their constant gloom and doom
daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus?
Fox News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the
deaths in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them,
or they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses,
and starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained
by a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never
had a lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we
should have testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny
is way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will
end when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months
and our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will
recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal
will come from. They have no job and very little hope of
getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died
from this virus. I have posted several articles showing this
number is inflated because no matter if there is an underlying
cause of death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a
very small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and
people in poor health. They are the ones that should be
quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health
have very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the
hospitals in this country will be overflowing, and people will be
dying for the lack of respirators.
The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
200,000. Not fake news.
The number is not fake, it's just wrong. All those people didn't
die from the virus.
Again, the number of deaths over what as expected is greater than
200,000. It is likely COVID-19 has killed more than 200,000.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-covid-19-death-count-is-almost-certainly-too-low/
Post by Johnny
The fake new is overflowing hospitals and people dying for lack of
respirators.
Citations?
Post by Johnny
Because of that fake news cities have spent millions of dollars
building overflow hospitals and acquiring respirators.
See how much confidence people have in news reports?
I'm not going back and looking for citations, you remember the news as
well as I do. Remember the Navy Hospital ships pulling into port to
take the patients the hospitals couldn't handle.

Where are all those overflowing hospitals, and the patients suffocating
because they didn't have respirators?
Josh Rosenbluth
2020-09-25 17:49:39 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:32:50 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:19:17 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media.
They were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to
spread around the world by their constant gloom and doom
daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus?
Fox News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the
deaths in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them,
or they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses,
and starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained
by a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never
had a lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we
should have testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny
is way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will
end when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months
and our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will
recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal
will come from. They have no job and very little hope of
getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died
from this virus. I have posted several articles showing this
number is inflated because no matter if there is an underlying
cause of death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a
very small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and
people in poor health. They are the ones that should be
quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health
have very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the
hospitals in this country will be overflowing, and people will be
dying for the lack of respirators.
The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
200,000. Not fake news.
The number is not fake, it's just wrong. All those people didn't
die from the virus.
Again, the number of deaths over what as expected is greater than
200,000. It is likely COVID-19 has killed more than 200,000.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-covid-19-death-count-is-almost-certainly-too-low/
Post by Johnny
The fake new is overflowing hospitals and people dying for lack of
respirators.
Citations?
Post by Johnny
Because of that fake news cities have spent millions of dollars
building overflow hospitals and acquiring respirators.
See how much confidence people have in news reports?
I'm not going back and looking for citations, you remember the news as
well as I do. Remember the Navy Hospital ships pulling into port to
take the patients the hospitals couldn't handle.
Where are all those overflowing hospitals, and the patients suffocating
because they didn't have respirators?
They existed at the beginning of the pandemic, but thanks to mitigating
measures you opposed, those problems were resolved.
El Castor
2020-09-25 19:35:32 UTC
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Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:32:50 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:19:17 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media.
They were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to
spread around the world by their constant gloom and doom
daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus?
Fox News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the
deaths in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them,
or they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses,
and starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained
by a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never
had a lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we
should have testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny
is way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will
end when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months
and our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will
recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal
will come from. They have no job and very little hope of
getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died
from this virus. I have posted several articles showing this
number is inflated because no matter if there is an underlying
cause of death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a
very small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and
people in poor health. They are the ones that should be
quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health
have very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the
hospitals in this country will be overflowing, and people will be
dying for the lack of respirators.
The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
200,000. Not fake news.
The number is not fake, it's just wrong. All those people didn't
die from the virus.
Again, the number of deaths over what as expected is greater than
200,000. It is likely COVID-19 has killed more than 200,000.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-covid-19-death-count-is-almost-certainly-too-low/
Post by Johnny
The fake new is overflowing hospitals and people dying for lack of
respirators.
Citations?
Post by Johnny
Because of that fake news cities have spent millions of dollars
building overflow hospitals and acquiring respirators.
See how much confidence people have in news reports?
I'm not going back and looking for citations, you remember the news as
well as I do. Remember the Navy Hospital ships pulling into port to
take the patients the hospitals couldn't handle.
Where are all those overflowing hospitals, and the patients suffocating
because they didn't have respirators?
They existed at the beginning of the pandemic, but thanks to mitigating
measures you opposed, those problems were resolved.
Exactly.
me
2020-09-26 14:19:28 UTC
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Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:19:17 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They
were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread
around the world by their constant gloom and doom daily
news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus?
Fox News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the
deaths in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them,
or they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses,
and starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained
by a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had
a lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should
have testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is
way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will end
when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months
and our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will
recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal will
come from. They have no job and very little hope of getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died from
this virus. I have posted several articles showing this number is
inflated because no matter if there is an underlying cause of
death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a very
small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and people
in poor health. They are the ones that should be quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health have
very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the
hospitals in this country will be overflowing, and people will be
dying for the lack of respirators.
The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
200,000. Not fake news.
The number is not fake, it's just wrong. All those people didn't die
from the virus.
Again, the number of deaths over what as expected is greater than
200,000. It is likely COVID-19 has killed more than 200,000.
The issue is : is the cure worse than the disease?
https://usafacts.org/articles/top-causes-death-united-states-heart-disease-cancer-and-covid-19/

We have not yet experienced the full consequences of destroying millions of livelihoods by decree, just like we did not get the full cost of the ‘draft’ by decree until after wars.

Also, what if there are forces manipulating We, the People, to cull each other? It is not unheard of.
http://www.endit.info/PoliticalNarrative.shtml
me
2020-09-26 14:51:58 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:19:17 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They
were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread
around the world by their constant gloom and doom daily
news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus?
Fox News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the
deaths in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them,
or they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses,
and starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained
by a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had
a lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should
have testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is
way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will end
when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months
and our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will
recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal will
come from. They have no job and very little hope of getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died from
this virus. I have posted several articles showing this number is
inflated because no matter if there is an underlying cause of
death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a very
small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and people
in poor health. They are the ones that should be quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health have
very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the
hospitals in this country will be overflowing, and people will be
dying for the lack of respirators.
The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
200,000. Not fake news.
The number is not fake, it's just wrong. All those people didn't die
from the virus.
Again, the number of deaths over what as expected is greater than
200,000. It is likely COVID-19 has killed more than 200,000.
Looks like the cure caused excess deaths you are counting.
See
“It’s so important to understand that the deaths of COVID-19 will be far less than the deaths caused by societal lockdown when the economy is ruined.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/german-minister-admits-lockdown-will-kill-more-covid-19-does
El Castor
2020-09-25 17:55:30 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:56:59 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:12:12 -0700
Post by El Castor
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:56:58 -0700
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They
were the ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread
around the world by their constant gloom and doom daily news
reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox
News has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths
in the US, updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like
scared animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or
they can get out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and
starve to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by
a lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have
testing and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is
way out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like
distancing and masks can and do limit the spread. This will end
when we have a vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
Just how am I out of line?
"The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed." etc.
Huh? Sorry, but I am not into conspiracy theories. You need to
relax. This thing should be substantially over in a few months and
our civilization, which has not been destroyed, will recover.
Whether it was planned or not the results are the same.
There are people sitting home wondering where their next meal will
come from. They have no job and very little hope of getting one.
What am asking is was it worth shutting down the economy for this virus?
To me the answer is no.
The news media insists two hundred thousand people have died from
this virus. I have posted several articles showing this number is
inflated because no matter if there is an underlying cause of
death, the virus is blamed for it.
We have had more than 200,000 additional deaths in 2020 than
expected. What do you think accounts for that?
Post by Johnny
Two hundred thousand out of a population of 300 million is a very
small number, and the people dying are the elderly and and people
in poor health. They are the ones that should be quarantined.
This is sick shit.
Post by Johnny
Even if the virus continues to spread, people in good health have
very little chance of dying from it.
I tell you what sick is. Sick is the news media saying the hospitals
in this country will be overflowing, and people will be dying for the
lack of respirators.
Well, it's true. At one point hospitals were overflowing and people
were dying for lack of respirators. Not the case now, but at one time
it certainly was. Would you have news sources NOT report the truth?

March:
"(Reuters) - Dr. Gopi Patel recalls how powerless she felt when New
York's Mount Sinai Hospital overflowed with COVID-19 patients in
March."

July:
"The emergency department at Jackson Memorial Hospital, wedged between
Little Havana and the vibrant murals of Wynwood in Miami, has
overflowed with Covid-19 patients for weeks."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/24/florida-hospitals-coronavirus-outbreak-ron-desantis

"Overwhelmed California hospitals sending COVID-19 patients to SF"
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/California-hospitals-transfer-COVID-patients-15389470.php
Post by Johnny
The only purpose of publishing something like that is to create panic.
Granted that sensational headlines have always sold newspapers and
left leaning news sources are inclined to portray a Republican
government as inept, but there was truth in the overflow stories, and
a ventilator shortage was real, although perhaps much worse
internationally than in the US. A coordinated scheme to create panic
and destroy civilization? Absurd. Get real. Don't allow yourself to be
drawn into yet another conspiracy theory. Yes, we did land on the
moon, no the twin towers were not brought down by explosives, there
are no "chem trails", and no, the military isn't controlling the
weather. (-8
Josh Rosenbluth
2020-09-24 22:05:02 UTC
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Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world
by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News
has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US,
updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get
out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and starve
to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have testing
and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
By testing and tracing, I mean everybody getting tested all the time
(perhaps once a week) and those who test positive have their contacts
traced. If we did that, we could open up more things.
El Castor
2020-09-25 06:39:49 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
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Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world
by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News
has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US,
updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get
out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and starve
to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have testing
and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
By testing and tracing, I mean everybody getting tested all the time
(perhaps once a week) and those who test positive have their contacts
traced. If we did that, we could open up more things.
And if pigs had wings they could fly, but they don't. The testing
equipment has taken time to develop. Of course we could have relied on
Obama's vast stockpiles of ventilators and COVID-19 test equipment,
but it seems to have disappeared. In any event we have become the
world's leading manufacturer of ventilators and performed 100 million
tests. Several vaccine candidates are in the final stage of testing.
islander
2020-09-26 00:28:29 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:05:02 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world
by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News
has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US,
updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get
out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and starve
to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have testing
and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
By testing and tracing, I mean everybody getting tested all the time
(perhaps once a week) and those who test positive have their contacts
traced. If we did that, we could open up more things.
And if pigs had wings they could fly, but they don't. The testing
equipment has taken time to develop. Of course we could have relied on
Obama's vast stockpiles of ventilators and COVID-19 test equipment,
but it seems to have disappeared. In any event we have become the
world's leading manufacturer of ventilators and performed 100 million
tests. Several vaccine candidates are in the final stage of testing.
A few points: It was the Trump administration that shut down the
PREDICT virus breakout detection program last fall. The most important
implication of this is that it removed US liaison scientists from Wuhan
at a critical time for early detection of COVID-19. The Trump
administration has made no attempt to reestablish this program despite
the fact that we fully expect more SARS-CoV outbreaks in the future.
Secondly, the national stockpile of ventilators would have been
sufficient to stop the virus if applied early enough, but we were very
late to recognize the danger and the shortages of PPE, especially masks
for the general population needed to be applied very early while the
spread could still be contained (Hell, we didn't even have enough PPE
for health care workers). Thirdly, the travel bans had so many
exceptions that they were largely ineffective. As to testing, 100
million tests are not very useful if it takes too long to get results
and even worse, not useful if contact tracing and quarantine are not
strictly enforced. Finally, the rush to reopen businesses before we
reached baseline cases was guaranteed to produce another surge. If you
haven't been keeping track, the number of cases is once again increasing
at a 17% rate over the past 14 days and deaths are increasing at 5%.
Things are worse throughout the mid-west, especially Wisc., Mo., Tenn.,
and Iowa.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200830&instance_id=21756&nl=the-morning&regi_id=99768375&section_index=1&section_name=big_story&segment_id=37185&te=1&user_id=dc3dd34756dd0c3b91b3a949c27984df
El Castor
2020-09-26 06:59:06 UTC
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Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:05:02 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world
by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News
has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US,
updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get
out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and starve
to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have testing
and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
By testing and tracing, I mean everybody getting tested all the time
(perhaps once a week) and those who test positive have their contacts
traced. If we did that, we could open up more things.
And if pigs had wings they could fly, but they don't. The testing
equipment has taken time to develop. Of course we could have relied on
Obama's vast stockpiles of ventilators and COVID-19 test equipment,
but it seems to have disappeared. In any event we have become the
world's leading manufacturer of ventilators and performed 100 million
tests. Several vaccine candidates are in the final stage of testing.
A few points: It was the Trump administration that shut down the
PREDICT virus breakout detection program last fall.
I realize this is an election year, but that statement seems uh,
grievously misleading.

PREDICT was a ten year project initiated in 2009 and "led by the UC
Davis One Health Institute, and core partners include USAID, EcoHealth
Alliance, Metabiota, Wildlife Conservation Society, and Smithsonian
Institution."
https://ohi.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/programs-projects/predict-project

It's purpose -- "to strengthen health security and global capacity for
the detection and discovery of viruses of pandemic potential that can
move between animals and people.. It's ten year cycle ended in
September 2019, but received a six month extension which ended in
March 2020."
And then on April 1st, just a few days later, it was again
extended. ...

"April 03, 2020
Posted by Trina Wood
By Kristin Burns for UC Davis News
PREDICT will provide emergency support to other countries for outbreak
response including technical support for early detection of SARS
CoV-2, the virus that causes the disease COVID-19, through a six-month
extension from the U.S. Agency for International Development, or
USAID, effective April 1."
https://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/news/predict-receives-extension-covid-19-pandemic-emergency-response
Post by islander
The most important
implication of this is that it removed US liaison scientists from Wuhan
at a critical time for early detection of COVID-19. The Trump
administration has made no attempt to reestablish this program despite
the fact that we fully expect more SARS-CoV outbreaks in the future.
Secondly, the national stockpile of ventilators would have been
sufficient to stop the virus if applied early enough, but we were very
late to recognize the danger and the shortages of PPE, especially masks
for the general population needed to be applied very early while the
spread could still be contained (Hell, we didn't even have enough PPE
for health care workers). Thirdly, the travel bans had so many
exceptions that they were largely ineffective. As to testing, 100
million tests are not very useful if it takes too long to get results
and even worse, not useful if contact tracing and quarantine are not
strictly enforced. Finally, the rush to reopen businesses before we
reached baseline cases was guaranteed to produce another surge. If you
haven't been keeping track, the number of cases is once again increasing
at a 17% rate over the past 14 days and deaths are increasing at 5%.
Things are worse throughout the mid-west, especially Wisc., Mo., Tenn.,
and Iowa.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200830&instance_id=21756&nl=the-morning&regi_id=99768375&section_index=1&section_name=big_story&segment_id=37185&te=1&user_id=dc3dd34756dd0c3b91b3a949c27984df
islander
2020-09-26 15:17:54 UTC
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Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:05:02 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world
by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News
has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US,
updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get
out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and starve
to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have testing
and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
By testing and tracing, I mean everybody getting tested all the time
(perhaps once a week) and those who test positive have their contacts
traced. If we did that, we could open up more things.
And if pigs had wings they could fly, but they don't. The testing
equipment has taken time to develop. Of course we could have relied on
Obama's vast stockpiles of ventilators and COVID-19 test equipment,
but it seems to have disappeared. In any event we have become the
world's leading manufacturer of ventilators and performed 100 million
tests. Several vaccine candidates are in the final stage of testing.
A few points: It was the Trump administration that shut down the
PREDICT virus breakout detection program last fall.
I realize this is an election year, but that statement seems uh,
grievously misleading.
PREDICT was a ten year project initiated in 2009 and "led by the UC
Davis One Health Institute, and core partners include USAID, EcoHealth
Alliance, Metabiota, Wildlife Conservation Society, and Smithsonian
Institution."
https://ohi.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/programs-projects/predict-project
It's purpose -- "to strengthen health security and global capacity for
the detection and discovery of viruses of pandemic potential that can
move between animals and people.. It's ten year cycle ended in
September 2019, but received a six month extension which ended in
March 2020."
And then on April 1st, just a few days later, it was again
extended. ...
"April 03, 2020
Posted by Trina Wood
By Kristin Burns for UC Davis News
PREDICT will provide emergency support to other countries for outbreak
response including technical support for early detection of SARS
CoV-2, the virus that causes the disease COVID-19, through a six-month
extension from the U.S. Agency for International Development, or
USAID, effective April 1."
https://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/news/predict-receives-extension-covid-19-pandemic-emergency-response
Are you really claiming that the Trump administration is supporting
international cooperation to combat COVID-19?
Post by El Castor
Post by islander
The most important
implication of this is that it removed US liaison scientists from Wuhan
at a critical time for early detection of COVID-19. The Trump
administration has made no attempt to reestablish this program despite
the fact that we fully expect more SARS-CoV outbreaks in the future.
Secondly, the national stockpile of ventilators would have been
sufficient to stop the virus if applied early enough, but we were very
late to recognize the danger and the shortages of PPE, especially masks
for the general population needed to be applied very early while the
spread could still be contained (Hell, we didn't even have enough PPE
for health care workers). Thirdly, the travel bans had so many
exceptions that they were largely ineffective. As to testing, 100
million tests are not very useful if it takes too long to get results
and even worse, not useful if contact tracing and quarantine are not
strictly enforced. Finally, the rush to reopen businesses before we
reached baseline cases was guaranteed to produce another surge. If you
haven't been keeping track, the number of cases is once again increasing
at a 17% rate over the past 14 days and deaths are increasing at 5%.
Things are worse throughout the mid-west, especially Wisc., Mo., Tenn.,
and Iowa.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200830&instance_id=21756&nl=the-morning&regi_id=99768375&section_index=1&section_name=big_story&segment_id=37185&te=1&user_id=dc3dd34756dd0c3b91b3a949c27984df
El Castor
2020-09-26 21:54:06 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:05:02 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by El Castor
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:53:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:25:22 -0700
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Johnny
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Post by me
The evidence is overwhelming. This civilization has been
purposefully destroyed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/let-me-explain-what-happens-next-reader-sums-it-all-very-ominously
If it was planned, it was planned by the news media. They were the
ones that caused this state of hysteria to spread around the world
by their constant gloom and doom daily news reports on the virus.
When have you ever seen a scoreboard set up for a virus? Fox News
has one that shows the deaths world wide and the deaths in the US,
updated daily.
People have a choice, they can hide in their homes like scared
animals, and let the world fall apart around them, or they can get
out and go back to work.
... and let another 200,000 die.
And let millions of people lose their homes and businesses, and starve
to death?
Haven't you realized yet that this virus can't be contained by a
lockdown?
It can be mitigated with sensible measures (we have never had a
lockdown) until a vaccine us ready. Better yet, we should have testing
and tracing to suppress it.
We do have testing and tracing. I've been tested, but Johnny is way
out of line. I agree that sensible precautions like distancing and
masks can and do limit the spread. This will end when we have a
vaccine. Hopefully early next year.
By testing and tracing, I mean everybody getting tested all the time
(perhaps once a week) and those who test positive have their contacts
traced. If we did that, we could open up more things.
And if pigs had wings they could fly, but they don't. The testing
equipment has taken time to develop. Of course we could have relied on
Obama's vast stockpiles of ventilators and COVID-19 test equipment,
but it seems to have disappeared. In any event we have become the
world's leading manufacturer of ventilators and performed 100 million
tests. Several vaccine candidates are in the final stage of testing.
A few points: It was the Trump administration that shut down the
PREDICT virus breakout detection program last fall.
I realize this is an election year, but that statement seems uh,
grievously misleading.
PREDICT was a ten year project initiated in 2009 and "led by the UC
Davis One Health Institute, and core partners include USAID, EcoHealth
Alliance, Metabiota, Wildlife Conservation Society, and Smithsonian
Institution."
https://ohi.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/programs-projects/predict-project
It's purpose -- "to strengthen health security and global capacity for
the detection and discovery of viruses of pandemic potential that can
move between animals and people.. It's ten year cycle ended in
September 2019, but received a six month extension which ended in
March 2020."
And then on April 1st, just a few days later, it was again
extended. ...
"April 03, 2020
Posted by Trina Wood
By Kristin Burns for UC Davis News
PREDICT will provide emergency support to other countries for outbreak
response including technical support for early detection of SARS
CoV-2, the virus that causes the disease COVID-19, through a six-month
extension from the U.S. Agency for International Development, or
USAID, effective April 1."
https://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/news/predict-receives-extension-covid-19-pandemic-emergency-response
Are you really claiming that the Trump administration is supporting
international cooperation to combat COVID-19?
My post exposed your inaccurate bullshit, but since you bring it up,
Trump DID renew PREDICT, an international project, and his
administration is engaged in extensive international cooperation and
research on COVID-19 ...

"Transatlantic Cooperation on COVID-19
As President Trump has said, the United States is working with our
friends and partners around the world to coordinate our efforts on
stopping the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic. The United States values
our cooperation with allies and partners in combating the pandemic and
in planning for our collective recovery. In addition to the
leadership of the President and Secretary of State with their G7, G20,
NATO and other counterparts, Deputy Secretary of State Stephen E.
Biegun has led weekly deputy minister-level coordination calls with
Transatlantic Allies and partners since March 19, including the
European Commission."
https://www.state.gov/transatlantic-cooperation-on-covid-19/

"U.S.-Taiwan Joint Statement
To further strengthen U.S.-Taiwan consultation and cooperation on
combating the COVID-19 virus"
https://www.ait.org.tw/u-s-taiwan-joint-statement/

"Indo-Pacific Cooperation on COVID-19
As President Trump has said, the United States is working with our
friends and partners around the world to coordinate our efforts on
stopping the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic. The United States values
our cooperation with allies and partners in combating the pandemic and
in planning for our collective recovery. In addition to the
leadership of the President and Secretary of State with their G7, G20,
ASEAN, and other counterparts, Deputy Secretary of State Stephen E.
Biegun has led regular deputy minister-level coordination calls with
allies and partners since March 19."
https://www.state.gov/indo-pacific-cooperation-on-covid-19/

"US ambassador hails cooperation with Russia on Covid-19 crisis"
https://www.rt.com/usa/487961-ambassador-russia-coronavirus-nuclear-weapons/

"Thailand, US cooperate in HIV, COVID-19 vaccine development"
https://en.vietnamplus.vn/thailand-us-cooperate-in-hiv-covid19-vaccine-development/183088.vnp

Etc.

The US problem with the WHO and it's COVAX is due to the WHO's
continuing unhealthy relationship with China. The WHO refuses to admit
Taiwan as a member state, and since 2017 will not even allow them to
participate as an observer, and ...

"There's evidence that China covered up the coronavirus's spread,
muzzled whistleblowers, intimidated doctors, misled the WHO, and
blocked outside health experts. China knew by late 2019 that
human-to-human transmission was occurring, but on Jan. 14, the WHO
tweeted: “Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of
human-to-human transmission.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/who-admits-china-never-reported-the-existence-of-coronavirus-outbreak
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Post by El Castor
Post by islander
The most important
implication of this is that it removed US liaison scientists from Wuhan
at a critical time for early detection of COVID-19. The Trump
administration has made no attempt to reestablish this program despite
the fact that we fully expect more SARS-CoV outbreaks in the future.
Secondly, the national stockpile of ventilators would have been
sufficient to stop the virus if applied early enough, but we were very
late to recognize the danger and the shortages of PPE, especially masks
for the general population needed to be applied very early while the
spread could still be contained (Hell, we didn't even have enough PPE
for health care workers). Thirdly, the travel bans had so many
exceptions that they were largely ineffective. As to testing, 100
million tests are not very useful if it takes too long to get results
and even worse, not useful if contact tracing and quarantine are not
strictly enforced. Finally, the rush to reopen businesses before we
reached baseline cases was guaranteed to produce another surge. If you
haven't been keeping track, the number of cases is once again increasing
at a 17% rate over the past 14 days and deaths are increasing at 5%.
Things are worse throughout the mid-west, especially Wisc., Mo., Tenn.,
and Iowa.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200830&instance_id=21756&nl=the-morning&regi_id=99768375&section_index=1&section_name=big_story&segment_id=37185&te=1&user_id=dc3dd34756dd0c3b91b3a949c27984df
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